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Google releases closed source VS Code plugin

49 points by mfer 8y ago

lucasmullens 8y ago
It's "VS Code" not "vs. Code". That makes it sound like it's closed source versus code.
- kyrra 8y ago
  And the URL should be updated to https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode Not the LICENSE file that is currently linked.
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    The license file is linked because the news being posted is that the plug-in of under proprietary terms, which are linked in the license file.
- Tomte 8y ago
  That was certainly correct when submitted. Hacker News silently rewrites submission titles, in order to fight clickbait (and to correct common mistakes, I guess). Unless you re-check and verify your submission title when redirected to /newest, you will never know.
  - mfer 8y ago
    I updated/fixed it. Something other than myself changed it.
resoluteteeth 8y ago
Well, in 2019 I guess Microsoft is the new Google and Google is the new Microsoft.
- deleted 8y ago
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pennaMan 8y ago
So Google releases a closed source library for an open source Microsoft product? You can't make up jokes this good.
- skybrian 8y ago
  There is nothing strange here. Google has both open source and proprietary software. Source is not available for nearly all of Google's websites.
0xDEEPFAC 8y ago
One more reason not to support Google I guess. I don't understand the appeal of VS code anyway - its nothing but a slow Electron thing. Notepad++ and Sublime blow it out of the water.
- alexeldeib 8y ago
  VS Code has great debug integrations. I used to be fully on sublime, then I dabbled in Atom and VS code because I liked the aesthetic and value that in something I have to stare at all day. The debug integrations in VS Code were what hooked me. Very clean, extensible, and they work. It's certainly what won me over compared to Atom.
  - adrianhel 8y ago
    Just curious, I've briefly tried JetBrains and VS Code, and to me, VSC just seems like a worse IDE. Why not just use a good IDE instead?
    - alexeldeib 8y ago
      I don't really want a full IDE. I basically want sublime + minimal features to help me debug more quickly. I mostly want a text editor that gets out of my way, but can whip out more powerful tools (within reason) when I need them. Vim/nano/emacs can certainly pull out power, but grokking them on as deep a level as sublime/atom/vscode requires a steep curve (and is complementary anyway). Something full like VS is too heavy for me personally. I rarely use 80% of the features, and the ones I do want tend to be more complex in the more powerful IDEs when maybe I only need some simple version. I can certainly imagine a different working environment where I would find the IDE tooling much more valuable, but it's not what I work on now. VS code being a worse IDE is, for me, a feature.
    - beart 8y ago
      You _briefly_ used both of these and found JetBrains to be _personally_ better, then follow up by asking why not just use a "good IDE?" The simplest response with a similar level of effort is - I disagree with you and find VS Code to be an effective IDE.
basil-rash 8y ago
This is of course in contrast to Microsoft, who releases their Azure plugins under the MIT License [1][2][3] etc [1] https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-azureappservice/blob/master/LICENSE.md https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-azureappservice/blob/mas... [2] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/ms-azuretools.vscode-cosmosdb/license https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/ms-azuretools.vsc... [3] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/ms-azuretools.vscode-azurefunctions/license https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/ms-azuretools.vsc...
- int_19h 8y ago
  Most Microsoft VSCode plugins are open source. If you click on details in the extension marketplace, you'll see a lot of GitHub URLs: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/publishers/Microsoft https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/publishers/Microsoft And perhaps most ironically in this context: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-go https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-go
- deleted 8y ago
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numbsafari 8y ago
I’m not liking this. With all the shenanigans of companies like Kite, doing funny things with people’s code, I’m not keen on closed source tools from cloud companies. I realize my code gets uploaded to Google anyway, but this is just uncomfortable.
fabricexpert 8y ago
Why is this on GitHub if there’s no source?
- kyrra 8y ago
  For the issue tracker.
  - fabricexpert 8y ago
    Is there really nothing better?
    - StudentStuff 8y ago
      There are better issue trackers, but the target market almost certainly has a Github account, and is searching for things on Github (rather than Google). Hence not hosting it on Gitlab or Bitbucket.
    - sebazzz 8y ago
      You'd say they use the issue tracker software of the Chromium project, which is essentially the issue tracker of when Google Code still existed.
    - int_19h 8y ago
      It's good enough, but more importantly, that's where people already are.
- tln 8y ago
  For the contributions maybe? https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode/blo...
dragonwriter 8y ago
CONTRIBUTING.md [0] is odd given the LICENSE and, even moreso, absence of available code in the repo. They ask for PRs and CLAs, but... how? Huh, digging more, it used to have an Apache 2.0.LICENSE file. Wonder what the story is. [0] https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode/blo...

49 points by mfer 8y ago

lucasmullens 8y ago

It's "VS Code" not "vs. Code". That makes it sound like it's closed source versus code.

kyrra 8y ago
And the URL should be updated to https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode Not the LICENSE file that is currently linked.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  The license file is linked because the news being posted is that the plug-in of under proprietary terms, which are linked in the license file.
Tomte 8y ago
That was certainly correct when submitted. Hacker News silently rewrites submission titles, in order to fight clickbait (and to correct common mistakes, I guess). Unless you re-check and verify your submission title when redirected to /newest, you will never know.
- mfer 8y ago
  I updated/fixed it. Something other than myself changed it.

resoluteteeth 8y ago

Well, in 2019 I guess Microsoft is the new Google and Google is the new Microsoft.

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pennaMan 8y ago

So Google releases a closed source library for an open source Microsoft product? You can't make up jokes this good.

skybrian 8y ago
There is nothing strange here. Google has both open source and proprietary software. Source is not available for nearly all of Google's websites.

0xDEEPFAC 8y ago

One more reason not to support Google I guess. I don't understand the appeal of VS code anyway - its nothing but a slow Electron thing. Notepad++ and Sublime blow it out of the water.

alexeldeib 8y ago
VS Code has great debug integrations. I used to be fully on sublime, then I dabbled in Atom and VS code because I liked the aesthetic and value that in something I have to stare at all day. The debug integrations in VS Code were what hooked me. Very clean, extensible, and they work. It's certainly what won me over compared to Atom.
- adrianhel 8y ago
  Just curious, I've briefly tried JetBrains and VS Code, and to me, VSC just seems like a worse IDE. Why not just use a good IDE instead?
  - alexeldeib 8y ago
    I don't really want a full IDE. I basically want sublime + minimal features to help me debug more quickly. I mostly want a text editor that gets out of my way, but can whip out more powerful tools (within reason) when I need them. Vim/nano/emacs can certainly pull out power, but grokking them on as deep a level as sublime/atom/vscode requires a steep curve (and is complementary anyway). Something full like VS is too heavy for me personally. I rarely use 80% of the features, and the ones I do want tend to be more complex in the more powerful IDEs when maybe I only need some simple version. I can certainly imagine a different working environment where I would find the IDE tooling much more valuable, but it's not what I work on now. VS code being a worse IDE is, for me, a feature.
  - beart 8y ago
    You _briefly_ used both of these and found JetBrains to be _personally_ better, then follow up by asking why not just use a "good IDE?" The simplest response with a similar level of effort is - I disagree with you and find VS Code to be an effective IDE.

basil-rash 8y ago

This is of course in contrast to Microsoft, who releases their Azure plugins under the MIT License [1][2][3] etc [1] https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-azureappservice/blob/master/LICENSE.md https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-azureappservice/blob/mas... [2] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/ms-azuretools.vscode-cosmosdb/license https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/ms-azuretools.vsc... [3] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/ms-azuretools.vscode-azurefunctions/license https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/ms-azuretools.vsc...

int_19h 8y ago
Most Microsoft VSCode plugins are open source. If you click on details in the extension marketplace, you'll see a lot of GitHub URLs: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/publishers/Microsoft https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/publishers/Microsoft And perhaps most ironically in this context: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-go https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-go
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numbsafari 8y ago

I’m not liking this. With all the shenanigans of companies like Kite, doing funny things with people’s code, I’m not keen on closed source tools from cloud companies. I realize my code gets uploaded to Google anyway, but this is just uncomfortable.

fabricexpert 8y ago

Why is this on GitHub if there’s no source?

kyrra 8y ago
For the issue tracker.
- fabricexpert 8y ago
  Is there really nothing better?
  - StudentStuff 8y ago
    There are better issue trackers, but the target market almost certainly has a Github account, and is searching for things on Github (rather than Google). Hence not hosting it on Gitlab or Bitbucket.
  - sebazzz 8y ago
    You'd say they use the issue tracker software of the Chromium project, which is essentially the issue tracker of when Google Code still existed.
  - int_19h 8y ago
    It's good enough, but more importantly, that's where people already are.
tln 8y ago
For the contributions maybe? https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode/blo...

dragonwriter 8y ago

CONTRIBUTING.md [0] is odd given the LICENSE and, even moreso, absence of available code in the repo. They ask for PRs and CLAs, but... how? Huh, digging more, it used to have an Apache 2.0.LICENSE file. Wonder what the story is. [0] https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-code-vscode/blo...