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You already can donate to Mozilla: https://donate.mozilla.org https://donate.mozilla.org

by meruru 8y ago

Karunamon 8y ago
I'd rather buy a browser as a company's primary product, not donate to Mozilla which makes a browser and does many other things, many of which I disagree with and would rather not fund.
- ogre_codes 8y ago
  I'm confused here. Seems to me that if you want these kind of features in a browser you want exactly what funds. Also, even if you paid for software with these features, it's likely a good portion of the money you pay will also go towards things you disagree with as well.
- _hl_ 8y ago
  Could you give some examples of things they do that you disagree with? I can't really think of any controversial non-firefox things they've done.
  - fxbl0i 8y ago
    Controversial != useless. I don't like they wasted money on Firefox OS or Persona; I don't want to donate to them if my money goes there instead of to Firefox. In fact, why not let us decide where exactly our money will go if we donate?
    - vkou 8y ago
      Mozilla invested into Firefox OS, because they were hoping to disentangle their #1 revenue stream from ad-tech companies.
      - sroussey 8y ago
        It also led to the sharp decline in memory usage as that became super obvious when they went 100% mobile.
  - 0zZc 8y ago
    https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7k8ved/mozilla_faces_blowback_after_slipping_mr_robot/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7k8ved/mozilla_fac... https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/mozilla-announces-resignation-of-recently-appointed-ceo-brendan-eich-following-controversy-over-gay-marriage-opposition https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/mozilla-announces-resign... https://wiki.mozilla.org/Speaker_Series#Monday_Oct_1.2C_2018:_Free_Speech:_What_is_it.2C_and_Who.E2.80.99s_Responsible.3F_.5BPanel.5D https://wiki.mozilla.org/Speaker_Series#Monday_Oct_1.2C_2018... https://twitter.com/datasociety/status/1093227579723730946 https://twitter.com/datasociety/status/1093227579723730946 I could go on forever with Mozilla's connections to organizations promoting and facilitating politically motivated censorship.
    - pluma 8y ago
      Just to be clear: other than the Mr Robot promo your main criticism is that their politics don't align with yours? Because I think when people ask about Mozilla controversies they're thinking about situations in which Mozilla has "broken character" by e.g. risking users' privacy, not activism that is absolutely in line with Mozilla's stated goals (whether you personally agree with them and their interpretation thereof or not).
      - GoblinSlayer 8y ago
        Censorship isn't really a personal preference. Or is it?
- lrem 8y ago
  But Firefox is Mozilla's primary product. It just so happens that Mozilla is big enough to also have some side products.
- deleted 8y ago
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You already can donate to Mozilla: https://donate.mozilla.org https://donate.mozilla.org

by meruru 8y ago

You already can donate to Mozilla: https://donate.mozilla.org https://donate.mozilla.org

I'd rather buy a browser as a company's primary product, not donate to Mozilla which makes a browser and does many other things, many of which I disagree with and would rather not fund.

ogre_codes 8y ago
I'm confused here. Seems to me that if you want these kind of features in a browser you want exactly what funds. Also, even if you paid for software with these features, it's likely a good portion of the money you pay will also go towards things you disagree with as well.
_hl_ 8y ago
Could you give some examples of things they do that you disagree with? I can't really think of any controversial non-firefox things they've done.
- fxbl0i 8y ago
  Controversial != useless. I don't like they wasted money on Firefox OS or Persona; I don't want to donate to them if my money goes there instead of to Firefox. In fact, why not let us decide where exactly our money will go if we donate?
  - vkou 8y ago
    Mozilla invested into Firefox OS, because they were hoping to disentangle their #1 revenue stream from ad-tech companies.
    - sroussey 8y ago
      It also led to the sharp decline in memory usage as that became super obvious when they went 100% mobile.
- 0zZc 8y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7k8ved/mozilla_faces_blowback_after_slipping_mr_robot/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7k8ved/mozilla_fac... https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/mozilla-announces-resignation-of-recently-appointed-ceo-brendan-eich-following-controversy-over-gay-marriage-opposition https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/mozilla-announces-resign... https://wiki.mozilla.org/Speaker_Series#Monday_Oct_1.2C_2018:_Free_Speech:_What_is_it.2C_and_Who.E2.80.99s_Responsible.3F_.5BPanel.5D https://wiki.mozilla.org/Speaker_Series#Monday_Oct_1.2C_2018... https://twitter.com/datasociety/status/1093227579723730946 https://twitter.com/datasociety/status/1093227579723730946 I could go on forever with Mozilla's connections to organizations promoting and facilitating politically motivated censorship.
  - pluma 8y ago
    Just to be clear: other than the Mr Robot promo your main criticism is that their politics don't align with yours? Because I think when people ask about Mozilla controversies they're thinking about situations in which Mozilla has "broken character" by e.g. risking users' privacy, not activism that is absolutely in line with Mozilla's stated goals (whether you personally agree with them and their interpretation thereof or not).
    - GoblinSlayer 8y ago
      Censorship isn't really a personal preference. Or is it?
lrem 8y ago
But Firefox is Mozilla's primary product. It just so happens that Mozilla is big enough to also have some side products.
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