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I mean if the US government spies on us and we don't care, why would we care if China does? Same same?

by ProAm 8y ago

earenndil 8y ago
> the US government spies on us and we don't care I care.
manofmanysmiles 8y ago
This is far from a complete answer, but consider Psychological Warfare [1]. With vast amounts of "boring" data about people's preferences in movies, music, friends, choice of words in messages, an actor can construct psychological profiles of individuals and populations and use those to manipulate people. This is exactly what the Cambridge Analytica "scandal" is about. Individually, you may have nothing to hide, but in aggregate, the data is rather powerful. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare I also just dug up another article about Big Data and PSYOPS. https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/21/the-digital-military-industrial-complex/ https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/21/the-digital-militar...
- dlivingston 8y ago
  > In short, having a Looks like China got him before he could finish typing
ryanlol 8y ago
So how exactly is China supposed to go about spying on people using a LPE backdoor?
kansface 8y ago
The US government spies on you to prevent the next 9/11 so it goes. China spies on you to steal your IP to give to its native businesses. You should probably care about the later far more than the former.
- Jerry2 8y ago
  >The US government spies on you to prevent the next 9/11 so it goes. China spies on you to steal your IP to give to its native businesses. NSA has also been caught spying for economic purposes. They were spying on Brazilian oil giant Petrobras: http://g1.globo.com/fantastico/noticia/2013/09/nsa-documents-show-united-states-spied-brazilian-oil-giant.html http://g1.globo.com/fantastico/noticia/2013/09/nsa-documents...
- dlivingston 8y ago
  Pick one: * Liberty * Security

I mean if the US government spies on us and we don't care, why would we care if China does? Same same?

by ProAm 8y ago

I mean if the US government spies on us and we don't care, why would we care if China does? Same same?

earenndil 8y ago

> the US government spies on us and we don't care I care.

manofmanysmiles 8y ago

This is far from a complete answer, but consider Psychological Warfare [1]. With vast amounts of "boring" data about people's preferences in movies, music, friends, choice of words in messages, an actor can construct psychological profiles of individuals and populations and use those to manipulate people. This is exactly what the Cambridge Analytica "scandal" is about. Individually, you may have nothing to hide, but in aggregate, the data is rather powerful. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare I also just dug up another article about Big Data and PSYOPS. https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/21/the-digital-military-industrial-complex/ https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/21/the-digital-militar...

dlivingston 8y ago
> In short, having a Looks like China got him before he could finish typing

ryanlol 8y ago

So how exactly is China supposed to go about spying on people using a LPE backdoor?

kansface 8y ago

The US government spies on you to prevent the next 9/11 so it goes. China spies on you to steal your IP to give to its native businesses. You should probably care about the later far more than the former.

Jerry2 8y ago
>The US government spies on you to prevent the next 9/11 so it goes. China spies on you to steal your IP to give to its native businesses. NSA has also been caught spying for economic purposes. They were spying on Brazilian oil giant Petrobras: http://g1.globo.com/fantastico/noticia/2013/09/nsa-documents-show-united-states-spied-brazilian-oil-giant.html http://g1.globo.com/fantastico/noticia/2013/09/nsa-documents...
dlivingston 8y ago
Pick one: * Liberty * Security