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Well, one dead swallow does not break a summer. Vegan > not vegan is still a good first-order approximation; if you want to be more precise, vegan+avoiding palm
by firethief 8y ago
Well, one dead swallow does not break a summer. Vegan > not vegan is still a good first-order approximation; if you want to be more precise, vegan+avoiding palm oil > vegan > not vegan.
- ThrowawayIP 8y agoExactly. You add on top of that that many of the Vegan spreads are moving to "Sustainable Palm Oil"[1] and you are really just left with the unsustainable and unimaginably cruel Dairy Industry. [1] - https://www.triplepundit.com/story/2015/earth-balance-switches-sustainable-palm-oil/36666 https://www.triplepundit.com/story/2015/earth-balance-switch...
- mikorym 8y agoI understand this sentiment, and the drive behind it to do good. Unfortunately one can also perhaps justifiably say: eat insects > eating vegan > ... And that makes it all the less romantic. Ideology to me has some merits, but I personally prefer to attempt to optimise at each point (including the meat production pointset). EDIT: The Netherlands is setting some precedent towards this, especially for animals and improving their surrounds.