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I think this means "discovered" in the sense that a mathematical proof is discovered, rather than the sense that an ancient buried artefact is discovered.
by jstanley 8y ago
I think this means "discovered" in the sense that a mathematical proof is discovered, rather than the sense that an ancient buried artefact is discovered.
- thereisnospork 8y agoSure, but chemical and thermodynamc models fall under far less rigorous logic than a mathematical proof. To again ape physics, would it not have been wrong to say gravitational waves were discovered when they first appeared in equation? I'm on mobile so I haven't read the actual paper yet but this isn't the sort of thing that can constitute 'discovery'.
- andbberger 8y agoWell it's all semantics at this point, but I think it's fair to say that showing gravitational waves arise from the equations constitutes discovery. It's just that we recently found out that there are conditions in the universe that produce detectable gravitational waves.
- jolmg 8y agoWhat I think thereisnospork is trying to say is that you can't give the same weight to "discoveries" obtained through simulation using current models as "discoveries" obtained through observations via empirical research. The models are estimated through the observations we make through experimentation on the real world. They're not necessarily right.