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> The licensing change was not given with nearly enough heads up for companies to properly assess their options and migrate to OpenJDK if they choose. I don't

by pron 8y ago

> The licensing change was not given with nearly enough heads up for companies to properly assess their options and migrate to OpenJDK if they choose. I don't know what enough would be. This has been discussed and explained for at least a year. > it sure does seem like this was carefully planned to make it too difficult to move off the JDK that just got a lot more expensive to use. What? The change was that as of JDK 11, Oracle JDK and OpenJDK are the same software[1]. The same software that used to contain both free and commercial features, and that had field of use restriction is now 100% free and 100% open. If this is making it harder, I don't know what making it easier would be. If free is more expensive, I don't know what less expensive is. > My company is dropping Oracle JDK entirely and moving to Open JDK, and over time transitioning off of java wherever possible directly due of this change. Good, because that's what Oracle has been asking you to do[2]. Oracle JDK is now the name given to the same software sold with a commercial support subscription. If you don't want to buy support, don't use the package that includes it. > The general consensus of the Java leaders in our company is that this is a last ditch effort money grab by Oracle to leech money from Java, which was feared from the day that Sun was acquired. I am a bit concerned that the Java leaders in your company think that a money grab is taking a commerical offering and making it free. Oracle has now made the JDK 100% open source and free for the first time ever. To fund its development, it is also selling support for those who want it. [1]: https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/oracle-jdk-releases-for-java-11-and-later https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/oracle-jdk-rele... [2]: https://youtu.be/MFfTqUQxFTs?t=883 https://youtu.be/MFfTqUQxFTs?t=883

moocowtruck 8y ago
you will have to forgive thanatos_dem, they most likely work somewhere similar to my last job..gigantic org..you can tell them 100 times the asteroid is coming, but they ignore it until almost impact. They also have a very entitled idea of software, where in my situation we used tons of IBM software for years and were pissed off when IBM came looking for their money.. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT? our leaders even so called them thieves (funny since we were essentially stealing their software for years knowing full well it costs $$). Years later? nope not migrated away from the IBM stuff, who knew it takes tons of work when you ingrain in any tech for that long, and ya. a staff that needs training on the new direction etc etc. I say good for oracle looking to want compensation for support. And thanks to oracle for keeping it open source.. and well..your comments on the matter actually feel clearer than some of the information put out by oracle themselves hehe..

by pron 8y ago

moocowtruck 8y ago

you will have to forgive thanatos_dem, they most likely work somewhere similar to my last job..gigantic org..you can tell them 100 times the asteroid is coming, but they ignore it until almost impact. They also have a very entitled idea of software, where in my situation we used tons of IBM software for years and were pissed off when IBM came looking for their money.. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT? our leaders even so called them thieves (funny since we were essentially stealing their software for years knowing full well it costs $$). Years later? nope not migrated away from the IBM stuff, who knew it takes tons of work when you ingrain in any tech for that long, and ya. a staff that needs training on the new direction etc etc. I say good for oracle looking to want compensation for support. And thanks to oracle for keeping it open source.. and well..your comments on the matter actually feel clearer than some of the information put out by oracle themselves hehe..