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Out of curiosity, why use Edge over Firefox?

by larkeith 8y ago

fxbl0i 8y ago
It doesn't use Gecko.
- skrebbel 8y ago
  Sounds like a downside to me. Did you use Firefox recently? It's super fast.
  - fxbl0i 8y ago
    Chrome is still faster. It's natural (and healthy) that users choose the fastest choice.
daliusd 8y ago
While I use Firefox daily on Ubuntu there are still some pain points that affect me directly * Offscreen canvas. E.g. samples from here do not work for me https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/08/offscreen-canvas https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/08/offscreen-... * There are two problems with development: 1. Firefox does not catch some exceptions. This problem is fixed in 67 version so I can wait (but I still need to wait). 2. Firefox crashes for me randomly sometimes when I restart React dev server.
- z3t4 8y ago
  To be fair offscreen canvas is just a few months old and still experimental. But everything that can speed up the canvas is welcome!
  - daliusd 8y ago
    It depends how you look at it. E.g. gfx.offscreencanvas.enabled landed in Firefox 4 years ago: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709490 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709490
- alien1993 8y ago
  Offscreen canvas is disabled by default on Firefox because it's still experimental, you can enable it though. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/OffscreenCanvas#Browser_compatibility https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/OffscreenCa...
  - daliusd 8y ago
    I know that. Still two problems: * Samples in the link I have given are still not working even if you enable gfx.offscreencanvas.enabled. Therefore I conclude that this is not working at all. * As well this is good option for development but Firefox 44 was released in 2016. I think it is safe to assume that Firefox will never release this or at least will not release in acceptable time frame. Most probably we will see messages like this soon "We see you use Firefox. This feature is supported on Chrome, Chromium or Edge browsers. We recommend using one of them if you need this.".
- sorenjan 8y ago
  Firefox 67 is in the current Developer channel, so you don't have to wait any longer if you don't want to.
  - daliusd 8y ago
    Thank you :)
harel 8y ago
I use Firefox as well, but my main browser is Chrome. I just prefer the rendering on it, and the overall seamless integration with Google products which I use a lot. It's not uncommon for me to spin up 3 different browsers though to test various things from 3 separates 'angles'. Granted I might not get the seamless Google integration but at least it would be an alternative option. I like options.
rodgerd 8y ago
I am not using a browser that's partnering with CloudFlare, given their huge support for extremist right-wing organisations and sites, and their history of supporting online criminals (https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/spreading-the-ddos-disease-and-selling-the-cure/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/spreading-the-ddos-disea...).
- Lammy 8y ago
  Conversely, I’d never use a hosting provider I assumed would deplatform me in response to the slightest outrage or corporate coercion. That’s why I’ve been avoiding GoDaddy ever since 2007: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2661752/myspace--godaddy-shutter-popular-hacker-site.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2661752/myspace--godaddy-s...
- baud147258 8y ago
  Cloudfare has removed support of at least one right-wing website. And CF support orgs from all across the board.
Vinnl 8y ago
I'd love to be able to run it on my CI server so I can run automated tests on it as well.

Out of curiosity, why use Edge over Firefox?

fxbl0i 8y ago

It doesn't use Gecko.

skrebbel 8y ago
Sounds like a downside to me. Did you use Firefox recently? It's super fast.
- fxbl0i 8y ago
  Chrome is still faster. It's natural (and healthy) that users choose the fastest choice.

daliusd 8y ago

While I use Firefox daily on Ubuntu there are still some pain points that affect me directly * Offscreen canvas. E.g. samples from here do not work for me https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/08/offscreen-canvas https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/08/offscreen-... * There are two problems with development: 1. Firefox does not catch some exceptions. This problem is fixed in 67 version so I can wait (but I still need to wait). 2. Firefox crashes for me randomly sometimes when I restart React dev server.

z3t4 8y ago
To be fair offscreen canvas is just a few months old and still experimental. But everything that can speed up the canvas is welcome!
- daliusd 8y ago
  It depends how you look at it. E.g. gfx.offscreencanvas.enabled landed in Firefox 4 years ago: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709490 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709490
alien1993 8y ago
Offscreen canvas is disabled by default on Firefox because it's still experimental, you can enable it though. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/OffscreenCanvas#Browser_compatibility https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/OffscreenCa...
- daliusd 8y ago
  I know that. Still two problems: * Samples in the link I have given are still not working even if you enable gfx.offscreencanvas.enabled. Therefore I conclude that this is not working at all. * As well this is good option for development but Firefox 44 was released in 2016. I think it is safe to assume that Firefox will never release this or at least will not release in acceptable time frame. Most probably we will see messages like this soon "We see you use Firefox. This feature is supported on Chrome, Chromium or Edge browsers. We recommend using one of them if you need this.".
sorenjan 8y ago
Firefox 67 is in the current Developer channel, so you don't have to wait any longer if you don't want to.
- daliusd 8y ago
  Thank you :)

harel 8y ago

I use Firefox as well, but my main browser is Chrome. I just prefer the rendering on it, and the overall seamless integration with Google products which I use a lot. It's not uncommon for me to spin up 3 different browsers though to test various things from 3 separates 'angles'. Granted I might not get the seamless Google integration but at least it would be an alternative option. I like options.

rodgerd 8y ago

I am not using a browser that's partnering with CloudFlare, given their huge support for extremist right-wing organisations and sites, and their history of supporting online criminals (https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/spreading-the-ddos-disease-and-selling-the-cure/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/spreading-the-ddos-disea...).

Lammy 8y ago
Conversely, I’d never use a hosting provider I assumed would deplatform me in response to the slightest outrage or corporate coercion. That’s why I’ve been avoiding GoDaddy ever since 2007: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2661752/myspace--godaddy-shutter-popular-hacker-site.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2661752/myspace--godaddy-s...
baud147258 8y ago
Cloudfare has removed support of at least one right-wing website. And CF support orgs from all across the board.

Vinnl 8y ago

I'd love to be able to run it on my CI server so I can run automated tests on it as well.