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I have been dubious of effectiveness of homeopathy during many years. Now, it is widely used in breeding to compensate for prohibited antibiotics. This seems to

I have been dubious of effectiveness of homeopathy during many years. Now, it is widely used in breeding to compensate for prohibited antibiotics. This seems to prove that tiny doses also matter.

close04 8y ago
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voldacar 8y ago
can you source this claim?
- reacweb 8y ago
  LMGTFY https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5256414/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5256414/ In France, it is very very common that the veterinaries prescribe homeopathy.
  - lucozade 8y ago
    The abstract for that paper states: > Cure rates for the treatments with antibiotics, homeopathy or placebo varied to a high degree, while the remedy used did not seem to make a big difference. Looking at all the studies, no study was repeated under comparable conditions. Consequently, the use of homeopathy currently cannot claim to have sufficient prognostic validity where efficacy is concerned. I read this as suggesting that, rather than homeopathy working, antibiotics don't work particularly well.
  - Luc 8y ago
    For shame, really. A dereliction of duty by those vets. Might as well base your health system on witchcraft.
    - aldoushuxley001 8y ago
      So do you always ignore peer reviewed science or just when it comes to homeopathy?
      - Luc 8y ago
        Yeah, that's not how that works.
    - reacweb 8y ago
      During many years, I was convinced that the only explanation of homeopathy effectiveness was the placebo effect. The mind is very powerful. A couple of years ago, I had difficulties to sleep and my wife gave me a pill. It has worked immediately. Placebo effect can not explain the results obtained by the vets.
      - vibrato 8y ago
        So you attest that the placebo effect is real yet attribute it to something else.
        close04 8y ago
        Lots of homeopathy fans here it seems. The guy claiming homeopathy works (science be damned [0][1][2][every credible source]) gets upvoted, and the guy questioning whether it's placebo or not gets flagged. As I said in my (also flagged) comment, according to science homeopathy is to medicine what an air guitar is to music. > there is no reliable evidence that homeopathy is effective for any health condition [0] > the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there’s no credible scientific evidence to support such claims. [0] > Don’t use homeopathy to replace proven conventional care > Studies of high methodological quality were more likely to be negative than the lower quality studies [1] Anti-vaccination 2.0. Using low quality or disproved studies to support your claims. Although I'm willing to bet most proponents would not actually want to be treated with homeopathy for any life threatening illness. [0] https://nccih.nih.gov/health/homeopathy https://nccih.nih.gov/health/homeopathy [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10853874 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10853874 [2] https://health.spectator.co.uk/the-debate-about-homeopathy-is-over-these-verdicts-prove-it/ https://health.spectator.co.uk/the-debate-about-homeopathy-i...
  - voldacar 8y ago
    Thank you for the link. I'll read that with an open mind, but for the life of me I can't think of a single mechanism that would cause homeopathy to be more effective than chance, other than the placebo effect

I have been dubious of effectiveness of homeopathy during many years. Now, it is widely used in breeding to compensate for prohibited antibiotics. This seems to prove that tiny doses also matter.

close04 8y ago

In this case I can sell you Jimi Hendrix's air guitar. Just as good as the physical one [0] and a lot cheaper. [0] https://financesonline.com/10-most-expensive-guitars-of-music-stars-from-eric-clapton-to-jimi-hendrix/ https://financesonline.com/10-most-expensive-guitars-of-musi...

voldacar 8y ago

can you source this claim?

reacweb 8y ago
LMGTFY https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5256414/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5256414/ In France, it is very very common that the veterinaries prescribe homeopathy.
- lucozade 8y ago
  The abstract for that paper states: > Cure rates for the treatments with antibiotics, homeopathy or placebo varied to a high degree, while the remedy used did not seem to make a big difference. Looking at all the studies, no study was repeated under comparable conditions. Consequently, the use of homeopathy currently cannot claim to have sufficient prognostic validity where efficacy is concerned. I read this as suggesting that, rather than homeopathy working, antibiotics don't work particularly well.
- Luc 8y ago
  For shame, really. A dereliction of duty by those vets. Might as well base your health system on witchcraft.
  - aldoushuxley001 8y ago
    So do you always ignore peer reviewed science or just when it comes to homeopathy?
    - Luc 8y ago
      Yeah, that's not how that works.
  - reacweb 8y ago
    During many years, I was convinced that the only explanation of homeopathy effectiveness was the placebo effect. The mind is very powerful. A couple of years ago, I had difficulties to sleep and my wife gave me a pill. It has worked immediately. Placebo effect can not explain the results obtained by the vets.
    - vibrato 8y ago
      So you attest that the placebo effect is real yet attribute it to something else.
      - close04 8y ago
        Lots of homeopathy fans here it seems. The guy claiming homeopathy works (science be damned [0][1][2][every credible source]) gets upvoted, and the guy questioning whether it's placebo or not gets flagged. As I said in my (also flagged) comment, according to science homeopathy is to medicine what an air guitar is to music. > there is no reliable evidence that homeopathy is effective for any health condition [0] > the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there’s no credible scientific evidence to support such claims. [0] > Don’t use homeopathy to replace proven conventional care > Studies of high methodological quality were more likely to be negative than the lower quality studies [1] Anti-vaccination 2.0. Using low quality or disproved studies to support your claims. Although I'm willing to bet most proponents would not actually want to be treated with homeopathy for any life threatening illness. [0] https://nccih.nih.gov/health/homeopathy https://nccih.nih.gov/health/homeopathy [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10853874 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10853874 [2] https://health.spectator.co.uk/the-debate-about-homeopathy-is-over-these-verdicts-prove-it/ https://health.spectator.co.uk/the-debate-about-homeopathy-i...
- voldacar 8y ago
  Thank you for the link. I'll read that with an open mind, but for the life of me I can't think of a single mechanism that would cause homeopathy to be more effective than chance, other than the placebo effect