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Maybe I'm a bit of a rust fanboy and a bit of a skeptic but Zig and Jai aren't going anywhere. Zig appears to be a largely single contibutor (https://github.co

by rat87 8y ago

Maybe I'm a bit of a rust fanboy and a bit of a skeptic but Zig and Jai aren't going anywhere. Zig appears to be a largely single contibutor (https://github.com/ziglang/zig/graphs/contributors https://github.com/ziglang/zig/graphs/contributors the creator has < 2/3 of commits). Jai does not have a public compiler and is not likely to get a public release anytime soon. As for rust we don't know yet how big of a chunk of marketshare it will take from new c and c++ code. Not many people still use c code for "everything", most have already switched.

StreamBright 8y ago
What is the actual argument that you support with pointing out that Zig is "largely single contributor"? Linux was largely a single contributor up to a point.
- ModernMech 8y ago
  There is nothing wrong with single contributor languages. But for every C there are thousands of flatlined github repositories of single contributor languages. Building a language is a marathon, not a sprint. It takes years and years to grow something worthwhile, and this requires a lot of persistence. In the meantime, technical challenges, finances, family, and even busses get in the way of languages being fully realized. Having a team rather than a BDFL increase the chances of a language flourishing and persisting.
  - AndyKelley 8y ago
    Fun fact, I'm also training for a marathon! https://twitter.com/andy_kelley/status/1109906861241847816 https://twitter.com/andy_kelley/status/1109906861241847816 There are 8 people on the Zig team, all with significant contributions and deep understanding of the project. https://github.com/orgs/ziglang/people https://github.com/orgs/ziglang/people
rurban 8y ago
> Zig appears to be a largely single contributor That's a good thing. The less contributors, the better the project usually.
carlmr 8y ago
Rust is especially attractive because of no-GC. Systems, embedded, performance oriented projects have real reasons to adopt this language.
- rhodysurf 8y ago
  so does zig and jai tho..
AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
> Zig appears to be a largely single contibutor Aside from starting Zig as his personal project, Zig is also Andrew's job now. As far as I'm aware that is not true of any other contributor, so it makes sense he'd have the lion's share of contributions.
kps 8y ago
C was largely a single contributor.

by rat87 8y ago

StreamBright 8y ago

What is the actual argument that you support with pointing out that Zig is "largely single contributor"? Linux was largely a single contributor up to a point.

ModernMech 8y ago
There is nothing wrong with single contributor languages. But for every C there are thousands of flatlined github repositories of single contributor languages. Building a language is a marathon, not a sprint. It takes years and years to grow something worthwhile, and this requires a lot of persistence. In the meantime, technical challenges, finances, family, and even busses get in the way of languages being fully realized. Having a team rather than a BDFL increase the chances of a language flourishing and persisting.
- AndyKelley 8y ago
  Fun fact, I'm also training for a marathon! https://twitter.com/andy_kelley/status/1109906861241847816 https://twitter.com/andy_kelley/status/1109906861241847816 There are 8 people on the Zig team, all with significant contributions and deep understanding of the project. https://github.com/orgs/ziglang/people https://github.com/orgs/ziglang/people

rurban 8y ago

> Zig appears to be a largely single contributor That's a good thing. The less contributors, the better the project usually.

carlmr 8y ago

Rust is especially attractive because of no-GC. Systems, embedded, performance oriented projects have real reasons to adopt this language.

rhodysurf 8y ago
so does zig and jai tho..

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago

> Zig appears to be a largely single contibutor Aside from starting Zig as his personal project, Zig is also Andrew's job now. As far as I'm aware that is not true of any other contributor, so it makes sense he'd have the lion's share of contributions.

kps 8y ago

C was largely a single contributor.