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How can you call Grooveshark part of a stable new music ecosystem when UMG threatens them with "legal jihad"? See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1660645 h

by psawaya 16y ago

How can you call Grooveshark part of a stable new music ecosystem when UMG threatens them with "legal jihad"? See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1660645 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1660645 And how many thousands of dollars does it still cost to fill up, say, a 64GB iPod with iTunes music? It's still unreasonable to expect digital music customers to go entirely legit.

StavrosK 16y ago
It's not the music customers who need to change, it's the law. Honestly, I see your argument about filling a 64 GB iPod, but it's a bit of a straw man. The average person doesn't even know that many songs, I have 300 GB of music at home and yet all the songs I want to hear fit in 10 GB.
- psawaya 16y ago
  I agree, the law does need to change. Sure, maybe you'll spend thousands of dollars to build your itunes collection over the years, but let's hope you backed your songs up. It may not seem likely that Apple will shut down the itunes store, but if they ever did, or changed their redownload policy, you'd sure be pissed to lose all of that music in a hard drive crash. Services like Grooveshark offer what users really deserve, which is as much music as they want for a flat monthly rate.
  - StavrosK 16y ago
    I completely agree, I just paid $30 for a whole year of complete music freedom. Well, I had complete freedom before (for the little I torrented), but now it's more convenient as well. Grooveshark isn't quite there yet in terms of usefulness (it can't match the tidyness and quality of Spotify), but it's very useful indeed, especially with its mobile apps. For $30/yr, it's a no-brainer.
- jmtulloss 16y ago
  You can easily fill up the largest iPhone out there (32gb?) for $5/mo on rdio. And it's completely legal (no threats of legal jihad). I do work for them, so I'm a bit biased, but there's a reason I left my old job to work on it. It really is the best music service out there, in my opinion.

by psawaya 16y ago

StavrosK 16y ago

It's not the music customers who need to change, it's the law. Honestly, I see your argument about filling a 64 GB iPod, but it's a bit of a straw man. The average person doesn't even know that many songs, I have 300 GB of music at home and yet all the songs I want to hear fit in 10 GB.

psawaya 16y ago
I agree, the law does need to change. Sure, maybe you'll spend thousands of dollars to build your itunes collection over the years, but let's hope you backed your songs up. It may not seem likely that Apple will shut down the itunes store, but if they ever did, or changed their redownload policy, you'd sure be pissed to lose all of that music in a hard drive crash. Services like Grooveshark offer what users really deserve, which is as much music as they want for a flat monthly rate.
- StavrosK 16y ago
  I completely agree, I just paid $30 for a whole year of complete music freedom. Well, I had complete freedom before (for the little I torrented), but now it's more convenient as well. Grooveshark isn't quite there yet in terms of usefulness (it can't match the tidyness and quality of Spotify), but it's very useful indeed, especially with its mobile apps. For $30/yr, it's a no-brainer.
jmtulloss 16y ago
You can easily fill up the largest iPhone out there (32gb?) for $5/mo on rdio. And it's completely legal (no threats of legal jihad). I do work for them, so I'm a bit biased, but there's a reason I left my old job to work on it. It really is the best music service out there, in my opinion.