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I swear my stepdaughter hates me because I gave her my old Nexus 6P. It's a sweet phone, I don't understand the issue. I don't want to give in and buy her an

I swear my stepdaughter hates me because I gave her my old Nexus 6P. It's a sweet phone, I don't understand the issue. I don't want to give in and buy her an iPhone, but she had tears in her eyes when I told her $800 wasn't the greatest use of funds.

mandelbrotwurst 8y ago
Blue chat bubbles > green ones seems to be a big piece of it. You're not wrong.
- paulcole 8y ago
  He’s not wrong but the niece isn’t wrong either. Style and being cool matter more to some people than others.
  - lawnchair_larry 8y ago
    Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Or are you all Android owners who don’t realize that people who prefer Apple products tend to actually like them?
    - hn_throwaway_99 8y ago
      Preferring an iPhone is one thing, but the "tears in your eyes" comment from OP makes me think this is 100% a status thing. Also that I remember what is was like being a teenager in the US.
      - bredren 8y ago
        Some of it is status, but I think what would trigger an emotional swell like that is the potential of being embarrassed by having a knock-off communication device--and I think Androids are viewed this way by many teenagers. And you're exposed the moment you reply to a text. There's a great example of what its like to wear the wrong thing in Atlanta Season 2 episode 10, which centers around a Fubu t-shirt.
        hn_throwaway_99 8y ago
        Actually, your comment just reminded me exactly of that feeling when I was a kid and got a Gobot for a present instead of a Transformer.
    - dalore 8y ago
      It's like a kid getting upset when they don't get the porsche they wanted for their birthday but a second hand car. Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall Porsche experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? ... It's the same thing. She got a functioning smartphone but not the more expensive one she wanted.
      - lawnchair_larry 8y ago
        It’s not like that at all. It’s not about price. Most kids who prefer iphones would take a $250 iphone SE over a $900 Samsung. Hell, I would even take that deal.
        earenndil 8y ago
        I'd take a $250 SE over a $400 android, definitely, but not over a new samsung galaxy.
    - mcphage 8y ago
      > Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Does she have experience with both platforms, to be able to prefer one over the other?
      - lawnchair_larry 8y ago
        Probably, but you don’t even necessarily need to have experience with both. It’s perfectly reasonable to prefer something that is familiar or compatible. One need look no further than asking lifelong Windows owners if they would be happy with their next computer being a Mac. They’ll likely tell you hell no, whether they have used one before or not.
      - khaki54 8y ago
        Ding ding. She doesn't, I think it's a status / inclusion thing, but I'm sympathetic to that as well. I grew up poor
- neapolisbeach 8y ago
  As a current student this is a huge part of it. People with androids (green messages) will not be added to group chats because it turns everyone else's messages green. When making plans they will usually get texted individually but it can unintentionally lead to exclusion. Texting someone with an android is much less convenient than using an iPhone and anecdotally this is one reason kids choose iPhones over Android.
  - yufeng66 8y ago
    As a parent of teenager, it’s exactly that. Android phone messes up the iMessage group chat. So kids with Android phone tend to get excluded. Apple is obviously in no hurry to fixed issue. iMessage turn out to be the stickiest social network for the next generation.
    - tmm84 8y ago
      Apple can fix it but there is nothing stopping Android from implementing something that'll make things not change color.
      - mandelbrotwurst 8y ago
        How would they do this? iOS controls the colors on iOS, no?
vadansky 8y ago
You don't have to get the latest. I got my 8 for about $200 with a new plan (no contract), and I'm sure you can get a 7 cheaper as well.
saagarjha 8y ago
> It's a sweet phone For you.
- verroq 8y ago
  It's a big phone.
ahakki 8y ago
no idea if this still applies, but snapchat used to run like shit on android.
pmorici 8y ago
You can used iPhone 6's on ebay for $150.
toufiqbarhamov 8y ago
I use an old SE and I love it. It does what I want a phone to do, and just works every time. For my desktop I want freedom, but on my phone I want to have a safe App Store and not spend a lot of time wondering if the app I want is malware or counterfeit or a scam. I just want it to be a working item and that’s it. Maybe she feels the same way? No need to buy here an $800 model either, you can get really good iPhomes for a fraction of that price.
bredren 8y ago
This is a joke, but the medium, the content and its massive success (660k likes two months ago!) might encapsulate why she had tears in her eyes. http://vm.tiktok.com/eKpARW/ http://vm.tiktok.com/eKpARW/
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beatgammit 8y ago
You're nicer than me. If I had a teenager, I wouldn't buy them a smartphone at all. In fact, as a teenager, most of my friends had cell phones, but I didn't. And it was completely okay. When I went to college, I purchased my own cell phone and plan, which I paid for with the job I got while going to school. My family wasn't poor, my parents just didn't think I needed a cell phone, and they were right. I'll probably get my kids a phone when they hit their teens, but it's definitely not going to be top of the line. If they want a fancy phone, they can earn it themselves. It's completely optional at that age, even if they don't think so.
- cryo 8y ago
  this.

mandelbrotwurst 8y ago

Blue chat bubbles > green ones seems to be a big piece of it. You're not wrong.

paulcole 8y ago
He’s not wrong but the niece isn’t wrong either. Style and being cool matter more to some people than others.
- lawnchair_larry 8y ago
  Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Or are you all Android owners who don’t realize that people who prefer Apple products tend to actually like them?
  - hn_throwaway_99 8y ago
    Preferring an iPhone is one thing, but the "tears in your eyes" comment from OP makes me think this is 100% a status thing. Also that I remember what is was like being a teenager in the US.
    - bredren 8y ago
      Some of it is status, but I think what would trigger an emotional swell like that is the potential of being embarrassed by having a knock-off communication device--and I think Androids are viewed this way by many teenagers. And you're exposed the moment you reply to a text. There's a great example of what its like to wear the wrong thing in Atlanta Season 2 episode 10, which centers around a Fubu t-shirt.
      - hn_throwaway_99 8y ago
        Actually, your comment just reminded me exactly of that feeling when I was a kid and got a Gobot for a present instead of a Transformer.
  - dalore 8y ago
    It's like a kid getting upset when they don't get the porsche they wanted for their birthday but a second hand car. Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall Porsche experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? ... It's the same thing. She got a functioning smartphone but not the more expensive one she wanted.
    - lawnchair_larry 8y ago
      It’s not like that at all. It’s not about price. Most kids who prefer iphones would take a $250 iphone SE over a $900 Samsung. Hell, I would even take that deal.
      - earenndil 8y ago
        I'd take a $250 SE over a $400 android, definitely, but not over a new samsung galaxy.
  - mcphage 8y ago
    > Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Does she have experience with both platforms, to be able to prefer one over the other?
    - lawnchair_larry 8y ago
      Probably, but you don’t even necessarily need to have experience with both. It’s perfectly reasonable to prefer something that is familiar or compatible. One need look no further than asking lifelong Windows owners if they would be happy with their next computer being a Mac. They’ll likely tell you hell no, whether they have used one before or not.
    - khaki54 8y ago
      Ding ding. She doesn't, I think it's a status / inclusion thing, but I'm sympathetic to that as well. I grew up poor
neapolisbeach 8y ago
As a current student this is a huge part of it. People with androids (green messages) will not be added to group chats because it turns everyone else's messages green. When making plans they will usually get texted individually but it can unintentionally lead to exclusion. Texting someone with an android is much less convenient than using an iPhone and anecdotally this is one reason kids choose iPhones over Android.
- yufeng66 8y ago
  As a parent of teenager, it’s exactly that. Android phone messes up the iMessage group chat. So kids with Android phone tend to get excluded. Apple is obviously in no hurry to fixed issue. iMessage turn out to be the stickiest social network for the next generation.
  - tmm84 8y ago
    Apple can fix it but there is nothing stopping Android from implementing something that'll make things not change color.
    - mandelbrotwurst 8y ago
      How would they do this? iOS controls the colors on iOS, no?

vadansky 8y ago

You don't have to get the latest. I got my 8 for about $200 with a new plan (no contract), and I'm sure you can get a 7 cheaper as well.

saagarjha 8y ago

> It's a sweet phone For you.

verroq 8y ago
It's a big phone.

ahakki 8y ago

no idea if this still applies, but snapchat used to run like shit on android.

pmorici 8y ago

You can used iPhone 6's on ebay for $150.

toufiqbarhamov 8y ago

I use an old SE and I love it. It does what I want a phone to do, and just works every time. For my desktop I want freedom, but on my phone I want to have a safe App Store and not spend a lot of time wondering if the app I want is malware or counterfeit or a scam. I just want it to be a working item and that’s it. Maybe she feels the same way? No need to buy here an $800 model either, you can get really good iPhomes for a fraction of that price.

bredren 8y ago

This is a joke, but the medium, the content and its massive success (660k likes two months ago!) might encapsulate why she had tears in her eyes. http://vm.tiktok.com/eKpARW/ http://vm.tiktok.com/eKpARW/

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beatgammit 8y ago

You're nicer than me. If I had a teenager, I wouldn't buy them a smartphone at all. In fact, as a teenager, most of my friends had cell phones, but I didn't. And it was completely okay. When I went to college, I purchased my own cell phone and plan, which I paid for with the job I got while going to school. My family wasn't poor, my parents just didn't think I needed a cell phone, and they were right. I'll probably get my kids a phone when they hit their teens, but it's definitely not going to be top of the line. If they want a fancy phone, they can earn it themselves. It's completely optional at that age, even if they don't think so.

cryo 8y ago
this.