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If they get rid of option 3, they will make macs unsuitable for a lot of development outside of the Apple ecosystem (they must still be good for development for

If they get rid of option 3, they will make macs unsuitable for a lot of development outside of the Apple ecosystem (they must still be good for development for iOS and macOS apps). Surely that is a large enough part of their userbase that they won't just throw that away

tambourine_man 8y ago
>Surely that is a large enough part of their userbase that they won't just throw that away Don’t be so sure. It’s truly impossible to predict and understand some of decisions Apple's made in the pro market. Best one can hope for is to get an explanation 10 years from now in a podcast or blog post. If there’s still such a thing
- inlined 8y ago
  Surely you can turn on option 3 indefinitely for local builds at least. Otherwise Apple kills the ability to develop any software while offline or behind a firewall.
  - jakobegger 8y ago
    Gatekeeper only applies to software downloaded from the internet. Browsers set the "quarantine" attribute for downloaded files, and then Gatekeeper kicks in on first launch. Software that you build locally, or that you install with a package manager, is not affected. The goal of Gatekeeper is to keep your Mac safe -- not to control what you can do on your Mac.
    - puzzledobserver 8y ago
      Would something like "cat a.out > b.out" bypass Gatekeeper? I am always puzzled by apps which know the origins of files that they open.
      - true_religion 8y ago
        Yes that would bypass it. It's metadata set in the filesystem not a part of the file itself.
      - shoeffner 8y ago
        What I usually do is: xattr -d com.apple.quarantine FILE It removes the extended attribute from the given file.
- da_chicken 8y ago
  Yeah Apple has repeatedly and fairly consistently shown that they're more interested in the luxury consumer market than they are in anything else.
  - kevin_thibedeau 8y ago
    They might want to take some advice from Steve Ballmer.

tambourine_man 8y ago

>Surely that is a large enough part of their userbase that they won't just throw that away Don’t be so sure. It’s truly impossible to predict and understand some of decisions Apple's made in the pro market. Best one can hope for is to get an explanation 10 years from now in a podcast or blog post. If there’s still such a thing

inlined 8y ago
Surely you can turn on option 3 indefinitely for local builds at least. Otherwise Apple kills the ability to develop any software while offline or behind a firewall.
- jakobegger 8y ago
  Gatekeeper only applies to software downloaded from the internet. Browsers set the "quarantine" attribute for downloaded files, and then Gatekeeper kicks in on first launch. Software that you build locally, or that you install with a package manager, is not affected. The goal of Gatekeeper is to keep your Mac safe -- not to control what you can do on your Mac.
  - puzzledobserver 8y ago
    Would something like "cat a.out > b.out" bypass Gatekeeper? I am always puzzled by apps which know the origins of files that they open.
    - true_religion 8y ago
      Yes that would bypass it. It's metadata set in the filesystem not a part of the file itself.
    - shoeffner 8y ago
      What I usually do is: xattr -d com.apple.quarantine FILE It removes the extended attribute from the given file.
da_chicken 8y ago
Yeah Apple has repeatedly and fairly consistently shown that they're more interested in the luxury consumer market than they are in anything else.
- kevin_thibedeau 8y ago
  They might want to take some advice from Steve Ballmer.