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Most middle class don't have them, so still not average in context.
by reallydude 8y ago
Most middle class don't have them, so still not average in context.
- closeparen 8y agoMiddle class is often defined by homeownership; this seems like an argument about definitions.
- wutbrodo 8y agoThe definition you're using has heavy suburban connotations though, and ignoring location doesn't make any sense when talking about real estate. Living in the urban core has never been a marker of the middle-class, and the fact that the political entity of the City of San Francisco happens to be mostly urban core doesn't change that at all. These people could easily have dramatically reduced housing costs if they weren't making the consumption decision to live in the suburbs of said urban core.
- closeparen 8y agoTypical middle class suburbs come with ~30 minute commute times. From downtown SF, that still puts you well within the urban core. Maybe Oakland's urban core when BART works. Living in the Bay Area's suburbs is more like living in the next metro area over from your job, i.e. Milwaukee to Chicago.
- wutbrodo 8y agoThat's a very good point. I'll have to think about it