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> Some may argue that the home button is a moving part and can fail but personally I've never had any issue with them. Asia wishes to disagree with you. There

> Some may argue that the home button is a moving part and can fail but personally I've never had any issue with them. Asia wishes to disagree with you. There are literally millions of people here who turn on AssistiveTouch on a brand new phone for no other reason than to not use the physical home button because they believe it will wear out/break.

Nextgrid 8y ago
> they believe it will wear out/break But does it actually? Because if it's just a belief, nothing prevents the same belief from occurring with the 3D Touch home button. I guess it's going to be a feedback loop because obviously there wouldn't be reports of failures if nobody uses the physical button, but assuming normal usage, does the button fail frequently enough to be a concern? I think the west is a clear proof that this is not the case (unless something in Asia is breaking the buttons - climate maybe?).
- mixmastamyk 8y ago
  Button working fine on my 6s, older 5 my wife used worked fine as well. The 5 was finally replaced when the battery expanded. Anecdotal evidence says they are dependable.
- eridius 8y ago
  It does, actually, AIUI the home button was the #1 driver of AppleCare incidents for non-accidental damage. It had the highest failure rate of any component on the phone.
iainmerrick 8y ago
That’s a mass hysteria over nothing. Unfortunately it’s impossible to fix.
- stephenr 8y ago
  The home button on my 5S failed (followed by the screen). So it’s not nothing. It may be an exaggerated fear but it’s clearly based on some failures, otherwise they wouldn’t use the phone at all, in case the screen “breaks”
  - Nextgrid 8y ago
    I guess the difference between the screen and the button is that the screen is mandatory for using the phone, while the button is optional. Also I'm sure those people wouldn't actually use the phone at all if they had an equivalent way to achieve the same tasks that doesn't involve risking breaking a phone. Finally let's put it that way - if you use AssistiveTouch right away you lose the home button. If it breaks after X months/years of use you also lose the home button. Wouldn't it still be better to get value out of the button while it's still working rather than falling back to AT right away?
    - stephenr 8y ago
      I didn’t say I agree with their usage patterns, just explaining that they have them (I’m not Asian but live here) It may be a cost/value issue. Better to protect a perceived fragile part so it’s not damaged when they want to sell it for a newer model.
mikestew 8y ago
Asia wishes to disagree with you. Yes, that was parent's "some may argue..." part. That doesn't mean Asia are right. Some in that same part of the world would argue that running a fan can kill me, so something something urban legends.
masukomi 8y ago
yeah, that's been written about before. It's a false belief based on info that's not applicable to current devices. It is just baseless superstition at this point. Unfortunately, everyone believes it and makes their lives far worse with that stupid assistive touch thing when they don't need to.

Nextgrid 8y ago

> they believe it will wear out/break But does it actually? Because if it's just a belief, nothing prevents the same belief from occurring with the 3D Touch home button. I guess it's going to be a feedback loop because obviously there wouldn't be reports of failures if nobody uses the physical button, but assuming normal usage, does the button fail frequently enough to be a concern? I think the west is a clear proof that this is not the case (unless something in Asia is breaking the buttons - climate maybe?).

mixmastamyk 8y ago
Button working fine on my 6s, older 5 my wife used worked fine as well. The 5 was finally replaced when the battery expanded. Anecdotal evidence says they are dependable.
eridius 8y ago
It does, actually, AIUI the home button was the #1 driver of AppleCare incidents for non-accidental damage. It had the highest failure rate of any component on the phone.

iainmerrick 8y ago

That’s a mass hysteria over nothing. Unfortunately it’s impossible to fix.

stephenr 8y ago
The home button on my 5S failed (followed by the screen). So it’s not nothing. It may be an exaggerated fear but it’s clearly based on some failures, otherwise they wouldn’t use the phone at all, in case the screen “breaks”
- Nextgrid 8y ago
  I guess the difference between the screen and the button is that the screen is mandatory for using the phone, while the button is optional. Also I'm sure those people wouldn't actually use the phone at all if they had an equivalent way to achieve the same tasks that doesn't involve risking breaking a phone. Finally let's put it that way - if you use AssistiveTouch right away you lose the home button. If it breaks after X months/years of use you also lose the home button. Wouldn't it still be better to get value out of the button while it's still working rather than falling back to AT right away?
  - stephenr 8y ago
    I didn’t say I agree with their usage patterns, just explaining that they have them (I’m not Asian but live here) It may be a cost/value issue. Better to protect a perceived fragile part so it’s not damaged when they want to sell it for a newer model.

mikestew 8y ago

Asia wishes to disagree with you. Yes, that was parent's "some may argue..." part. That doesn't mean Asia are right. Some in that same part of the world would argue that running a fan can kill me, so something something urban legends.

masukomi 8y ago

yeah, that's been written about before. It's a false belief based on info that's not applicable to current devices. It is just baseless superstition at this point. Unfortunately, everyone believes it and makes their lives far worse with that stupid assistive touch thing when they don't need to.