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Inkstone News, owned by the South China Morning Post, which is owned by Alibaba Group writes an article about what a US official says. Hmmm...

alanwong 8y ago
And?
- xvector 8y ago
  They can’t be trusted? Chinese news is a farce.
  - alanwong 8y ago
    OP and an editor of Inkstone here. Surely I don't think what we do is farcical. Happy to answer any questions you have of our work.
    - xvector 8y ago
      How much leeway do you have to discuss and publicize incidents like the Tienamen Square massacre and other atrocities that the Chinese government has generally made an effort to scrub from the internet?
      - alanwong 8y ago
        We're a Hong Kong-based media organization, meaning no government, Chinese or not, dictates to us what we can or cannot report on. Our website is blocked in China. We do not censor our content and have reported on Tiananmen. For example: did you know that China just sentenced several men who put the image of the Tank Man on baijiu (a kind of hard liquor) bottles as a form of protest? https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/activists-who-put-tank-man-baijiu-bottles-given-suspended-sentences/article/3004476 https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/activists-who-put-tank...
    - slackfan 8y ago
      Don't have to be farcical to have an agenda.
  - bilbo0s 8y ago
    In fairness, so is most other "news". But yeah, I certainly wouldn't trust Chinese news any more than FOX or whatever. Pretty much all of it's propaganda these days.
sandworm101 8y ago
Yup. An article is only on part of any media campaign. I think it also safe to assume this HN discussion is being cataloged, if not actively manipulated, by those who created this article.
- alanwong 8y ago
  I created the article! Trust me when I say I'm not cataloging this discussion or actively manipulating it. (EDIT: deleted "with my colleagues" because another commenter says it sounds like something other than reporters working with editors to put out an article.)
  - bilbo0s 8y ago
    >I'm not cataloging this discussion or actively manipulating it... ??? You just did. I know that likely read like I was trying to be snarky, but I wasn't.
    - alanwong 8y ago
      No I don't find you snarky. I'm just confused. Are you saying that by engaging in a discussion about an article I posted in an online forum I'm "cataloging" and "actively manipulating" it? Am I "cataloging" a discussion if I tweet an article and reply to the responses? Am I "actively manipulating" a Reddit discussion if I post a link on the site and... respond to the comments? I've been doing both my whole career.
      - DataWorker 8y ago
        “You and your colleagues” makes it sound like you have a comment crew.
        alanwong 8y ago
        Thanks. A reply button wasn't available until just now, so I had edited my original comment and added a note.

alanwong 8y ago

And?

xvector 8y ago
They can’t be trusted? Chinese news is a farce.
- alanwong 8y ago
  OP and an editor of Inkstone here. Surely I don't think what we do is farcical. Happy to answer any questions you have of our work.
  - xvector 8y ago
    How much leeway do you have to discuss and publicize incidents like the Tienamen Square massacre and other atrocities that the Chinese government has generally made an effort to scrub from the internet?
    - alanwong 8y ago
      We're a Hong Kong-based media organization, meaning no government, Chinese or not, dictates to us what we can or cannot report on. Our website is blocked in China. We do not censor our content and have reported on Tiananmen. For example: did you know that China just sentenced several men who put the image of the Tank Man on baijiu (a kind of hard liquor) bottles as a form of protest? https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/activists-who-put-tank-man-baijiu-bottles-given-suspended-sentences/article/3004476 https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/activists-who-put-tank...
  - slackfan 8y ago
    Don't have to be farcical to have an agenda.
- bilbo0s 8y ago
  In fairness, so is most other "news". But yeah, I certainly wouldn't trust Chinese news any more than FOX or whatever. Pretty much all of it's propaganda these days.

sandworm101 8y ago

Yup. An article is only on part of any media campaign. I think it also safe to assume this HN discussion is being cataloged, if not actively manipulated, by those who created this article.

alanwong 8y ago
I created the article! Trust me when I say I'm not cataloging this discussion or actively manipulating it. (EDIT: deleted "with my colleagues" because another commenter says it sounds like something other than reporters working with editors to put out an article.)
- bilbo0s 8y ago
  >I'm not cataloging this discussion or actively manipulating it... ??? You just did. I know that likely read like I was trying to be snarky, but I wasn't.
  - alanwong 8y ago
    No I don't find you snarky. I'm just confused. Are you saying that by engaging in a discussion about an article I posted in an online forum I'm "cataloging" and "actively manipulating" it? Am I "cataloging" a discussion if I tweet an article and reply to the responses? Am I "actively manipulating" a Reddit discussion if I post a link on the site and... respond to the comments? I've been doing both my whole career.
    - DataWorker 8y ago
      “You and your colleagues” makes it sound like you have a comment crew.
      - alanwong 8y ago
        Thanks. A reply button wasn't available until just now, so I had edited my original comment and added a note.