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There's a Netflix series called Occupied based on the premise that Norway stopped producing oil & gas for environmental reasons. I watched a few episodes before
by coenhyde 8y ago
There's a Netflix series called Occupied based on the premise that Norway stopped producing oil & gas for environmental reasons. I watched a few episodes before getting distracted, as you do with Netflix.
"Occupied depicts a fictional near future in which Russia, with support from the European Union, occupies Norway to restore its oil and gas production, in response to a Europe-wide energy crisis caused by the coming to power of Norway's Green Party, which stopped the country's oil and gas production."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupied https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupied
- gdy 8y agoIt is russophobic. The idea of Russia invading Norway to resume Norwegian oil production because the EU asked it is absurd. Were it to happen in real life, Russia would be applauding Norway for rising the oil price and ramping up its own oil production as much as it can.
- pluma 8y agoIf history teaches us anything, it's more likely that the US would intervene against Norway to privatize its oil market with the "help" of US companies. But being a quasi-EU country and NATO member that's still a very unlikely scenario.
- throw0101a 8y ago* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...
- seppin 8y agoSo maybe line up all the US and Soviet Cold War invasions / occupations and see who comes out on top.
- jessaustin 8y agoHistory didn't end with the Cold War...
- seppin 8y agoyou're right, the Soviets lost their empire made by the barrel of a gun and still are trying to chip off pieces of land from their neighbors. When America invades with the intent to steal a country, let me know.
- gdy 8y ago"When America invades with the intent to steal a country, let me know." Because invading oil-rich countries, installing a puppet government, seeding chaos leading to deaths of hundreds of thousands of people is so much better than bloodlessly reuniting with a piece of your own territory stolen during the dissolution of the USSR.
- seppin 8y ago> reuniting with a piece of your own territory stolen during the dissolution of the USSR. LOL. The Soviet Union was an empire forged through invasion, occupation, and brutal repression. The Russians have as much right to Czechoslovakia as Nazi Germany did. Your unapologetic defense one one of the greatest evils of the 20th century would be funny, if it wasn't disgusting.
- jessaustin 8y agoCalm down there, fella. Crimea isn't the same thing as Slovakia and Czechia; they are separated by nearly 1000 miles. Crimea really was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. Its various political associations since 1954 hardly constitute "one of the greatest evils of the 20th century".
- seppin 8y ago
- seppin 8y agoYes, the US would invade their close NATO ally to privatize a market they have already exhausted at home. Makes perfect sense.
- jessaustin 8y agoI loved the show, and Russia was obviously a metaphor for the actual nation that invades for oil on a regular basis. There really are some things you can't say and get a TV show made. This is irony: speaking two messages to two audiences. Of course, there's also an audience for unflattering caricature of Russia. Besides there is some leftover animosity from historical invasions. Also a Russian invasion looked more exotic on the screen. Our screens are already full of American culture.
- prolepunk 8y agoBy definition 'exotic' means something unusual. Russian invasion is anything but that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Ru...
- hn23 8y agoCiting Wikipedia in political topics...
- jessaustin 8y agoZOMG I had never heard of any of these events of the last several years! The news media has failed me by only hyping this kind of thing 23 hours a day! What good fortune that I've had this opportunity to learn from you! Now I will support all of our meaningless unnecessary wars, starting with Venezuela where I'm assured that there really is an actual "humanitarian crisis"! Actually this wasn't a geopolitical point. It is simply a fact that Russian food, music, and other cultural indicators are less common on TV than American culture is. So, it makes for more interesting TV. That's all "exotic" meant.
- gdy 8y agoHave you actually read the links you've provided? You can start from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_War#Involvement_of_the_Russian_Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_War#Involvement_o...
- seppin 8y agoThe idea of Russia invading its neighbor isn't russophobic, its recent European history.
- gdy 8y agoYou obviously haven't read past the first line of my comment.
- seppin 8y agoThe specifics of the plot aren't realistic, Russia invading a neighbor with the idea of stealing land and resources while brutally oppressing its people has great precedent.
- gdy 8y ago"The specifics of the plot aren't realistic, Russia invading a neighbor with the idea of stealing land and resources while brutally oppressing its people has great precedent." Thank you for multiple examples of russophobia you have provided in your comments. What precedent are you talking about? In the recent history the only territory that joined Russia is Crimea which historically has been Russian for over 200 years and was assigned to be a part of Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic during Soviet time when all republics were parts of the same country and it didn't matter much. After an illegal coup in the Ukraine 'midwifed' by the US it was a strategical imperative to take the peninsula back and nobody is brutally oppressed, in fact, according to Gallup's poll almost everyone in Crime approve reunification with Russia [0]. If anything, the Crimea was stolen by the Ukraine during the dissolution of the Soviet Union and was finally returned to the country it was a part of for centuries. As for Russia-Norway relations, Russia has given Norway a part of the Barents Sea in order to settle 40 years old territorial dispute [1] which makes your claims even more absurd. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/03/20/one-year-after-russia-annexed-crimea-locals-prefer-moscow-to-kiev/#4b23135f510d https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/03/20/one-year-a... [1] http://www.rcinet.ca/eye-on-the-arctic/2010/09/16/norway-and-russia-sign-treaty-to-end-boundary-dispute-in-barents-sea/ http://www.rcinet.ca/eye-on-the-arctic/2010/09/16/norway-and...
- ghettoimp 8y agoA good show! It was the first thing that came to mind when seeing this article.
- thatcherc 8y agoBig fan of that show. Somehow it seemed very realistic to me, despite a few exceptional plot points that are acceptable in a TV show. I watched most of the first season all in a weekend and at one point forgot it wasn't happening in real life. Opinions aside, it is interesting to consider what issues might arise if one country or industry abruptly chooses to leave behind non-renewables before its peers.
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