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But isn't Australia (the South at least) doing some serious work around renewable energy and in specific stationary energy storage? https://electrek.co/2017/11

by SEJeff 8y ago

But isn't Australia (the South at least) doing some serious work around renewable energy and in specific stationary energy storage? https://electrek.co/2017/11/23/tesla-worlds-largest-li-ion-battery-system-in-australia/ https://electrek.co/2017/11/23/tesla-worlds-largest-li-ion-b... https://electrek.co/2018/05/11/tesla-giant-battery-australia-reduced-grid-service-cost/ https://electrek.co/2018/05/11/tesla-giant-battery-australia... And another one: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-virtual-power-plant-south-australia-second-phase/ https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-virtual-power-plant-south-au... I'd like to think since the land of Oz has a very thin ozone it is great for solar. As the cost of industrial batteries come down, this seems like much more of a sensible future. In the US, battery + solar/wind is just now becoming cheaper than building new coal / natgas peaker plants. This will only continue as the economies of scale and tech improvements drive the cost further down for renewables.

intothemild 8y ago
You’d think that we would be all over solar. But the reality is that the power is mostly coal generators, and there’s a huge fat asshole who owns most of the coal. She does everything in her power to make sure that doesn’t happen. Australia had a carbon tax before Gina Reinhardt got rid of it. It was bad for her business. We even had solar panel rebates, they are gone too. There’s no chance we get off coal while she’s alive.
- discodave 8y ago
  Just a quick fact check: Gina Rinehart, and Hancock Prospecting make most of their money out of iron ore, not coal.
  - fooblitzky 8y ago
    She's still happy to fund plenty of climate change denial and lobbying, e.g. IPA and ANDEV.
  - ggm 8y ago
    That they make most of their money in iron ore doesn't detract from their influence funding pro coal positions. The koch brothers don't limit their lobbying to industry directly relevant to their income
- SEJeff 8y ago
  But if there are rolling blackouts during the summer, and giant batteries can mitigate blackouts, I don't see how her wanting to kill it is going to stop it. It is simply inevitable.

by SEJeff 8y ago

intothemild 8y ago

You’d think that we would be all over solar. But the reality is that the power is mostly coal generators, and there’s a huge fat asshole who owns most of the coal. She does everything in her power to make sure that doesn’t happen. Australia had a carbon tax before Gina Reinhardt got rid of it. It was bad for her business. We even had solar panel rebates, they are gone too. There’s no chance we get off coal while she’s alive.

discodave 8y ago
Just a quick fact check: Gina Rinehart, and Hancock Prospecting make most of their money out of iron ore, not coal.
- fooblitzky 8y ago
  She's still happy to fund plenty of climate change denial and lobbying, e.g. IPA and ANDEV.
- ggm 8y ago
  That they make most of their money in iron ore doesn't detract from their influence funding pro coal positions. The koch brothers don't limit their lobbying to industry directly relevant to their income
SEJeff 8y ago
But if there are rolling blackouts during the summer, and giant batteries can mitigate blackouts, I don't see how her wanting to kill it is going to stop it. It is simply inevitable.