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The population of Norway is smaller than the city in which I live. I would say the city in which I live often teeters between sustainability and the opposite. I
by cheez 8y ago
The population of Norway is smaller than the city in which I live. I would say the city in which I live often teeters between sustainability and the opposite. Is there some limit to human organization scale where we can be effective?
- astrodust 8y agoIt's an attitude thing. Countries like Japan and China are much bigger and yet pivot on a dime politically when there's consensus. China went all-in on coal and when things got so bad pollution wise, they went all-in on solar. It's not a limit on population size, it's a limit defined by political cohesion. Look at the US today with two parties, one center-right wing, one extreme right wing, where they can't get anything done because one party would rather shut the country down than negotiate.
- hcurtiss 8y agoCorrection -- China went all in on solar AND coal.[1] These stories that China is going through some kind of environmental renaissance are fiction. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45640706 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45640706
- cheez 8y agoInteresting. So I suppose culture is important. Do we want to build a culture of sameness which allows for this kind of pivoting? I'm not so sure.
- astrodust 8y agoIt's not sameness so much as getting everyone on the same page. A multitude of opinions is fine so long as they're not the polar opposite or just pure obstructionism.