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While it's become impossible to browse the wider Web with Google, it's getting a bit easier elsewhere. A few helpful search engines: * https://millionshort.co
by kickscondor 8y ago
While it's become impossible to browse the wider Web with Google, it's getting a bit easier elsewhere.
A few helpful search engines:
* https://millionshort.com/ https://millionshort.com/
* https://wiby.me/ https://wiby.me/
* https://pinboard.in/search/ https://pinboard.in/search/
A recent movement to build personal Yahoo!-style directories:
* https://href.cool/ https://href.cool/ (my own project)
* https://indieseek.xyz/ https://indieseek.xyz/
* https://districts.neocities.org/ https://districts.neocities.org/
* https://the.dailywebthing.com/ https://the.dailywebthing.com/
The above resources are focused on general blogging and personal websites - for software and startups, I would refer to the appropriate 'awesome' directories. (https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome or https://awesomelists.top https://awesomelists.top)
If you know of any more, please list them - a small group of us are collecting these and trying to encourage new projects.
- bopbop 8y agoHow do I get updates on the groups project? Wiby seems amazing - the first three surprise me links were a human powered ornithopter, lego maniacs and a guide to knife throwing. Thank you for sharing!
- kickscondor 8y agoThe group mostly converses on micro.blog. I cover the various conversations and new discoveries on my site (kickscondor.com). Do you just want to follow along? Or do you have some ideas to share? This is a very new group that has sprung up in the last few months.
- jamiek88 8y agoI was just reading along this thread and wracking my brains trying to think of this one site that I had seen which curated interesting websites and up popped your comment and I was like ding ding ding then back down the rabbit hole! Glad this is becoming more organized and I will follow along with interest. It brings back a little of the wonder of the old web. A smaller subset somehow seems bigger, more infinite.
- bopbop 8y agoI wanted to follow along - your blog looks excellent, I'll check there and micro.blog. Thank you. Incidentally (and rhetorically), how I have not heard of micro.blog? It looks amazing! This whole thread has become a goldmine of interesting things.
- technotarek 8y agoWe're among those that believe there is room in the search space. We're building out our hyper local product search service city by city at https://attic.city https://attic.city. It's meant to fill the void with regard to smaller, non-chain stores that Google shopping seems to focus on.
- technotarek 8y agoEdit: ...that Google shopping seems to ignore (!)
- rjf72 8y agoJust checked out millionshort and wiby. And those are absolutely awesome resources (click on remove top e.g. million in millionshort)! In my opinion there has to be widespread fatigue of Google just somehow managing to return a large chunk of something like 1,000 sites for pretty much any search. It's in part SEO, but it's also like the article mentions - Google makes money from ads. These sites they spam at you generate substantial revenue for Google - no name sites do not. Being the world's largest advertising corporation and search engine is one hell of a conflict of interest in terms of delivering what the user wants, instead of delivering what Google wants.
- marttt 8y agoThere's also Kenneth Goldsmith's UbuWeb, a curated directory of (hard or impossible-to-find) avant-garde art, music, writing, video. Launched in 1996. http://ubu.com http://ubu.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UbuWeb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UbuWeb
- Funes- 8y agoThis one's great. I've lost count of how many films I've watched that I would have never found otherwise. Here's another big art repository: https://monoskop.org/Monoskop https://monoskop.org/Monoskop And a very well-documented collection (a "wiki") of paintings, also non-profit: https://wikiart.org https://wikiart.org
- marttt 8y ago+1, I forgot about Monoskop, a truly fascinating resource. Another interesting one is Aaaaarg (according to Monoskop's wiki, originally with one less "a", acronym of Artists, Architects, and Activists Reading Group): https://aaaaarg.fail/ https://aaaaarg.fail/ https://monoskop.org/Aaaaarg https://monoskop.org/Aaaaarg Basically it's a collaborative environment for reading, annotating and discussing texts. The content is submitted by users and (thus) of high quality. I think you need an invite to access the community. Also, the domain used to be aaaaarg.org, but I think they faced copyright issues of some kind and had to find an alternative domain. (Not sure about this; excellent new suffix, though!) EDIT: More precise description: https://www.memoryoftheworld.org/blog/2014/10/28/aaaaarg-org/ https://www.memoryoftheworld.org/blog/2014/10/28/aaaaarg-org...
- randomsearch 8y agoPossible contrarian insight: in the era of recommendation systems, hand-curation is due a big comeback. I’ve been listening to the BBC’s Introducing Mixtape podcast for a while. I also use Spotify and really enjoy its recommendation but the 6 Music podcast is just stellar. As paywalls restore quality journalism, I believe a renaissance for curated content is possible.
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- typon 8y agoholy crap, thanks for sharing Wiby! For the past two weeks I have been trying to find an old website by searching for "old mysterious site search engines" and "how to search deep parts of web" and "search engine tricks old site" and Google has not returned anything, even when I limited the time span to 2005-2006. I made the same search on Wilby and it returned search lores (maintained by the hacker Fravia) as the first result! I was so happy to find that website again because I haven't been on it for 10 years. Unfortunately I just found out that Fravia passed away in 2009 because of cancer :(... Wiby seems like a search engine Fravia would have enjoyed.
- gwern 8y agoI'm surprised you had trouble finding Fravia. When I was writing my own Internet search guide ( https://www.gwern.net/Search https://www.gwern.net/Search ) recently, I had no trouble finding Fravia. Unfortunately, his guide is obsolete at this point and I didn't get much out of it.
- typon 8y agomy favorite part about search lores wasn't the actual tips on how to google, but his writing style and the mysterious, almost occult feeling i got from visiting that website, with latin phrases and history strewn everywhere. Thanks for your guide though, ill chek it out :)
- kickscondor 8y agoThankyou for the link to your search guide - this looks tremendous! Especially when searching for a specific answer to something. I wonder what you think about discovery when you are looking for something unknown within certain parameters... Like, say you are looking for an "interesting film blog" - a search term like that will often lead to pages of "Top 10 Movie Blogs" lists that are all largely clickbait or not that interesting. Do you have any advice for that kind of search? (Perhaps you cover this in the guide, but I missed it in my scan - I thought I would ask while you are here.)
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- growt 8y agoLooks like millionshort is already dead? Last and only blog post is over a year old. copyright is still 2018. Sad, it looked promising.
- rchaud 8y agoAs long as the search engine still works, I<m happy. I<ve been using it quite a bit lately to dig up old musician interviews that either don<t exist on Google search or are buried behind mountains of keyword-optimized blogspam with that artist<s name.
- earthscienceman 8y agoWow. These are absolutely wonderful resources. Thanks for posting them
- Crinus 8y agoIsn't http://curlie.org/ http://curlie.org/ (ex-DMOZ) the most Yahoo!-style-like directory?
- kickscondor 8y agoFor sure - and there are several others like it: illumirate.com, joeant.com, skaffe.com, gimpsy.com, seekon.info, goguides.org, somuch.com. I'm personally not a fan of directories that try to tackle the _entire_ web - it's just too sprawling. So I tend to not recommend them; you have to drill down pretty deep to get anywhere. I think 'awesome' directories (and Reddit wikis) have proven how well niche directories can work - and so I like to encourage folks to build their own directories that encompass their personal view of the web. They act like those 'little libraries' you see on the roadside or at pubs - but for the web.
- motorokr 8y agoThanks! for sharing links. wiby in particular is amazing!
- ryanstorm 8y agoYour href.cool project is rad, and has inspired me to make my own! Thanks for sharing.
- kickscondor 8y agoSweet! Let me know where it ends up and I'll link to it. I'm excited to see what you come up with.
- mitjak 8y agoit's almost like we need a way to aggregate these sites and rate pages based on tags and how many people list their site. maybe not in the traditional del.icio.us sense but also as a potentially self hosted thing.
- dredmorbius 8y agoDuckDuckGo's "lite" search: https://duckduckgo.com/lite?q= https://duckduckgo.com/lite?q= My DDG-from-shell Bash function: ddg () { w3m https://duckduckgo.com/lite?q="$*" }
- efreak 8y agoI use the html search instead of the lite search. Not sure what the difference is, but it gets past the reload in elinks.
- dredmorbius 8y agoIn console browsers, far less screen cruft, and no HTML redirect. Focus is either on the submission field or gets there on first tab. Search button is focused on next tab, and visible.
- pmoriarty 8y agoAlso, you can add &kd=-1 to the end of the URL to get direct links in the search results. For example: https://duckduckgo.com/lite/?q=test&kd=-1 https://duckduckgo.com/lite/?q=test&kd=-1
- qznc 8y agoI'm collecting "spartan" websites via reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/SpartanWeb https://www.reddit.com/r/SpartanWeb
- themodelplumber 8y agoThanks for posting! I have added some of those, along with others in the replies, to my own page of text-only and minimal sites at http://www.friendlyskies.net/fmk/index.php?tpl=Links-Text-Only-Websites.html http://www.friendlyskies.net/fmk/index.php?tpl=Links-Text-On...
- ngold 8y agoGreat search engine resources. Thanks.
- mancuso5 8y agowe're also collecting alternatives here: https://ethical.net/resources/ https://ethical.net/resources/
- oldtimer68 8y agoI feel like millionshort is experiencing some denial of service from HN traffic. So slow right now that I can barely perform a search. Thanks for bringing these sites to attention, can't way browse them when traffic is lighter.
- wishinghand 8y agoI like that href.cool project! I also just got started looking into GM'ing a Dungeon World campaign so that DW Improv link came in handy.
- voltagex_ 8y agoThanks, you've just convinced me to make my Pinboard bookmarks public (after I clean them up).
- jimjimjim 8y agoThank you for the links. I've been toying with the idea of building a yahoo, seeing your post has rekindled my interest in it again.
- jhloa2 8y agoWow. Thank you. I've had the feeling that Google's search has gone to shit recently and this helps a lot.