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Besides owners, what about creeps that rent a place then leave devices behind? This affects hotels as well. That's my big fear.

plusbryan 8y ago
Agreed. A "guest" could target popular listings and hide a camera without the host knowing.
mrhappyunhappy 8y ago
Why do I get the feeling there is an underground market of sorts where people are paying to watch streams of hidden cameras in hotel rooms? Whoops, don’t get any ideas now!
- arkades 8y ago
  I'm pretty sure there's a reddit dedicated to logging into people's purely secured home webcams.
- icebraining 8y ago
  "In all, cameras are thought to have been installed in 42 rooms, across 30 hotels in 10 cities between November last year and this month. The suspects streamed 803 videos of people without their consent to a website with 4,000 members. " https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/21/18275530/south-korea-spycam-arrests-molka-fines-prison-sentences-filming https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/21/18275530/south-korea-spyc...
PopeDotNinja 8y ago
Another option is to choose not to be afraid. If one really care, get good at sweeping a place for cameras & remove the fear. If one is too lazy to sweep for cameras (like me!), decide to accept there's a low, non-zero chance that I'll get taped and move on. "You've got a tape of me? Congratulations! Send me a copy. It's a good thing there wasn't a camera covering all of the apartment. I had a little digestion shenanigans going on, I'm glad there's no evidence I am the one who left that floor. I tried to clean it up, but I didn't have any industrial chemicals."
- RankingMember 8y ago
  This perspective is fine if you're by yourself, but what if you've got kids with you?
  - oliveshell 8y ago
    Not the parent commenter, but if I had kids with me I’d stay in a hotel. It can be stressful enough traveling with children without having to worry about all the variables of an Airbnb stay.
    - icebraining 8y ago
      Cameras have been found in hotels too.
- ekovarski 8y ago
  Being secretly taped, esp in intimate moments, is a valid fear that many women have. It has long term repercussions on their life esp when the videos get shared. I don't actively sweep rooms but I'd be lying if I didn't say I inspected something that looked out of place when staying with the family at hotels and rentals. When I am by myself, I am less paranoid about these issues.
  - munk-a 8y ago
    This is absolutely a real issue, it's a problem with society and I'd love to see it change as it'd also help de-claw the terrible action that is revenge porn but until that happens... Yea, this.
  - JudgeWapner 8y ago
    a fear isn't made more urgent because a woman has it.
    - yojex 8y ago
      And, likewise, made no less urgent because a man doesn't have it.
usefulcat 8y ago
It just occurred to me that there is a risk here for owners as well. A guest could install hidden cameras in a rental, then months later another guest might find them and would likely assume that the owner had installed them.
RankingMember 8y ago
Definitely a valid fear. If I was airBnB-ing a place I'd def have to do a quick sweep for devices between tenants. With regard to hotels, I'm reminded of what happened to Erin Andrews[0], though that was targeted. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Andrews#Stalking_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Andrews#Stalking_incident
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dasKrokodil 8y ago
Don't worry, I'm sure the owners will catch them doing that via their own cameras.

plusbryan 8y ago

Agreed. A "guest" could target popular listings and hide a camera without the host knowing.

mrhappyunhappy 8y ago

Why do I get the feeling there is an underground market of sorts where people are paying to watch streams of hidden cameras in hotel rooms? Whoops, don’t get any ideas now!

arkades 8y ago
I'm pretty sure there's a reddit dedicated to logging into people's purely secured home webcams.
icebraining 8y ago
"In all, cameras are thought to have been installed in 42 rooms, across 30 hotels in 10 cities between November last year and this month. The suspects streamed 803 videos of people without their consent to a website with 4,000 members. " https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/21/18275530/south-korea-spycam-arrests-molka-fines-prison-sentences-filming https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/21/18275530/south-korea-spyc...

PopeDotNinja 8y ago

Another option is to choose not to be afraid. If one really care, get good at sweeping a place for cameras & remove the fear. If one is too lazy to sweep for cameras (like me!), decide to accept there's a low, non-zero chance that I'll get taped and move on. "You've got a tape of me? Congratulations! Send me a copy. It's a good thing there wasn't a camera covering all of the apartment. I had a little digestion shenanigans going on, I'm glad there's no evidence I am the one who left that floor. I tried to clean it up, but I didn't have any industrial chemicals."

RankingMember 8y ago
This perspective is fine if you're by yourself, but what if you've got kids with you?
- oliveshell 8y ago
  Not the parent commenter, but if I had kids with me I’d stay in a hotel. It can be stressful enough traveling with children without having to worry about all the variables of an Airbnb stay.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    Cameras have been found in hotels too.
ekovarski 8y ago
Being secretly taped, esp in intimate moments, is a valid fear that many women have. It has long term repercussions on their life esp when the videos get shared. I don't actively sweep rooms but I'd be lying if I didn't say I inspected something that looked out of place when staying with the family at hotels and rentals. When I am by myself, I am less paranoid about these issues.
- munk-a 8y ago
  This is absolutely a real issue, it's a problem with society and I'd love to see it change as it'd also help de-claw the terrible action that is revenge porn but until that happens... Yea, this.
- JudgeWapner 8y ago
  a fear isn't made more urgent because a woman has it.
  - yojex 8y ago
    And, likewise, made no less urgent because a man doesn't have it.

usefulcat 8y ago

It just occurred to me that there is a risk here for owners as well. A guest could install hidden cameras in a rental, then months later another guest might find them and would likely assume that the owner had installed them.

RankingMember 8y ago

Definitely a valid fear. If I was airBnB-ing a place I'd def have to do a quick sweep for devices between tenants. With regard to hotels, I'm reminded of what happened to Erin Andrews[0], though that was targeted. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Andrews#Stalking_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Andrews#Stalking_incident

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dasKrokodil 8y ago

Don't worry, I'm sure the owners will catch them doing that via their own cameras.