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/r/Piracy owners deserve it. They should've considered such a possibility before allowing their community to grow on a platform they do not control. So they ar

/r/Piracy owners deserve it. They should've considered such a possibility before allowing their community to grow on a platform they do not control. So they are not "victims", just a bit inconsiderate. And there is no reason to blame reddit, or anyone, for the deletion. They are not obliged to provide their service to anyone.

laurent123456 8y ago
On the other hand, it's thanks to communities like this one and others that Reddit got where it is today. So not unreasonable to blame them when they change their mind in the name of Ads.
- klntsky 8y ago
  Nope. These communities' owners and participants were basically just doing free work by producing content. But they didn't sign a contract or anything. > So not unreasonable to blame them when they change their mind in the name of Ads. That change of mind was a part of their business model. Why blaming people for making legal businesses? The problem is in people who trust "free" services and expect the terms to remain the same forever.
emilfihlman 8y ago
Linking to content is not piracy.
- dvdkon 8y ago
  /r/piracy had a strict policy of not linking to pirate content, even. They really tried to stay on Reddit's good side.
dvdkon 8y ago
I could create a site promising to host all files forever and after years of operation delete everything. It would certainly be within my rights, but you'd have every reason to hate me. Having a legal right to do something doesn't mean it is a good (and compassionate) idea.
morganvachon 8y ago
I don't go on /r/Piracy, but from my understanding there were already rules in place, and heavily enforced, about not linking to infringing content, and it was supposed to be just a place to discuss piracy. How is simple discussion of a topic infringing at all? How did they deserve this purge? It's exactly this attitude that has a chilling effect on all speech, no matter the subject. You should be ashamed.
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- klntsky 8y ago
  > It's exactly this attitude that has a chilling effect on all speech, no matter the subject. No, it isn't. The lack of precaution and inability to decently set up a forum software is.
rlue 8y ago
There's a difference between being right and being constructive, and you should consider this difference when submitting public commentary on sensitive topics (or just any time you open your mouth). In a purely self-interested sense, being right but abrasive is a poor strategy because it induces people to focus on the faults in your argument, rather than the merits. To wit, you've got a good point about the importance of autonomy and independence. But no one is rushing to defend your position here because you've sprinkled in a few unsympathetic value judgments and absolute claims along the way.

laurent123456 8y ago

On the other hand, it's thanks to communities like this one and others that Reddit got where it is today. So not unreasonable to blame them when they change their mind in the name of Ads.

klntsky 8y ago
Nope. These communities' owners and participants were basically just doing free work by producing content. But they didn't sign a contract or anything. > So not unreasonable to blame them when they change their mind in the name of Ads. That change of mind was a part of their business model. Why blaming people for making legal businesses? The problem is in people who trust "free" services and expect the terms to remain the same forever.

emilfihlman 8y ago

Linking to content is not piracy.

dvdkon 8y ago
/r/piracy had a strict policy of not linking to pirate content, even. They really tried to stay on Reddit's good side.

dvdkon 8y ago

I could create a site promising to host all files forever and after years of operation delete everything. It would certainly be within my rights, but you'd have every reason to hate me. Having a legal right to do something doesn't mean it is a good (and compassionate) idea.

morganvachon 8y ago

I don't go on /r/Piracy, but from my understanding there were already rules in place, and heavily enforced, about not linking to infringing content, and it was supposed to be just a place to discuss piracy. How is simple discussion of a topic infringing at all? How did they deserve this purge? It's exactly this attitude that has a chilling effect on all speech, no matter the subject. You should be ashamed.

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klntsky 8y ago
> It's exactly this attitude that has a chilling effect on all speech, no matter the subject. No, it isn't. The lack of precaution and inability to decently set up a forum software is.

rlue 8y ago

There's a difference between being right and being constructive, and you should consider this difference when submitting public commentary on sensitive topics (or just any time you open your mouth). In a purely self-interested sense, being right but abrasive is a poor strategy because it induces people to focus on the faults in your argument, rather than the merits. To wit, you've got a good point about the importance of autonomy and independence. But no one is rushing to defend your position here because you've sprinkled in a few unsympathetic value judgments and absolute claims along the way.