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Besides, I'm pretty sure banning is only gonna make those community feels like they are being persecuted for being right and itching the man. They then will pr

Besides, I'm pretty sure banning is only gonna make those community feels like they are being persecuted for being right and itching the man. They then will proceed to find another place that is less easy to control to carry on with their message, and will have a renewed feeling of legitimacy and urgency. What's even worse is that it may very well be used to censor even more things in the future, as people with a new toy tend to make use of it. In the end, removing space to debate about hot topics like those will make the angry people feel like loosing even more respect (a big motivator in their initial believe), while preventing anybody else to build a sane approach to it (you need to be exposed to hate to be a functional member of an imperfect society).

HNthrow22 8y ago
>> "Besides, I'm pretty sure banning is only gonna make those community feels like they are being persecuted for being right and itching the man. >>They then will proceed to find another place that is less easy to control to carry on with their message, and will have a renewed feeling of legitimacy and urgency." You left out the most important part, by forcing them to 'another place' you cut off their entire supply of fresh young, disenfranchised lonely young men to indoctrinate and recruit into their hateful belief system. Yes they will claim they're persecuted and play that up but by denying them the platform they'll also lose relevance, reach and impact. This is just a small step in the right direction. Despite warnings from many we've let the internet became a hate indoctrination tool under the guise of free speech. Only now that multiple shooters motivations can be directly connected to 'internet indoctrination' is action being taken. This is long overdue and truthfully just a good first step, closing this pandoras box will require a concerted global effort and even that may still prove to be unsuccessful.
- sametmax 8y ago
  The problem with this logic is that the exact same arguments are used by totalitarian systems to shut down the opposition. And like with this comment, they are sure they are the good guys and are doing what's right. What's more, we had plenty of hatred before internet. They managed to recruit enough people way before we had internet or even television. The fact is, this "solution" is just hiding a symptom, which not only gives a false sense of security, but makes treating the disease even harder. And of course, it's a slippery slope.

HNthrow22 8y ago

>> "Besides, I'm pretty sure banning is only gonna make those community feels like they are being persecuted for being right and itching the man. >>They then will proceed to find another place that is less easy to control to carry on with their message, and will have a renewed feeling of legitimacy and urgency." You left out the most important part, by forcing them to 'another place' you cut off their entire supply of fresh young, disenfranchised lonely young men to indoctrinate and recruit into their hateful belief system. Yes they will claim they're persecuted and play that up but by denying them the platform they'll also lose relevance, reach and impact. This is just a small step in the right direction. Despite warnings from many we've let the internet became a hate indoctrination tool under the guise of free speech. Only now that multiple shooters motivations can be directly connected to 'internet indoctrination' is action being taken. This is long overdue and truthfully just a good first step, closing this pandoras box will require a concerted global effort and even that may still prove to be unsuccessful.

sametmax 8y ago
The problem with this logic is that the exact same arguments are used by totalitarian systems to shut down the opposition. And like with this comment, they are sure they are the good guys and are doing what's right. What's more, we had plenty of hatred before internet. They managed to recruit enough people way before we had internet or even television. The fact is, this "solution" is just hiding a symptom, which not only gives a false sense of security, but makes treating the disease even harder. And of course, it's a slippery slope.