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- mey 8y agoAm I reading this wrong or has the study not actually started yet?
- doesntMatterr 8y agoI don't know, maybe you should read it again.
- micael_dias 8y agoSugar really is an addiction and it's very hard to escape it due to its vicious cycle. You may stop eating for a while but as soon as you think "just this once" it's very hard to stop again. Or maybe it's just me and my lack of will power but I did quit tobacco. I think tobacco not being sold and advertised everywhere I go probably helped.
- baroffoos 8y agoI haven't totally given up sugar but I eat foods with less sugar now and whenever I try something with a high sugar level again its really disgusting.
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- currymj 8y agoAfter the Brian Wansink thing, I have a natural skepticism of nutrition science coming out of Cornell, especially with a hypeworthy subject, glossy photos and a PR campaign.
- mindfulplay 8y agoI am more wary of any nutrition study though .. A lot of these scientists aim for newspaper coverage than actual honest research or science. Most of these are touchy-feely social science stuff that shouldn't be in the category of science to begin with.
- gnicholas 8y ago> “I have a very simple rule,” he says. “I eat fruit, but I don’t eat anything that has sugar added to it. I'm curious to know how people actually draw lines around sugar intake. Presumably fruit juice is not allowed? What about foods that have fruit juice as an ingredient? Do you decide based on what the ingredients are, or how much of the ingredient there is? Seems like there's a number of reasonable ways to make rules, but it isn't immediately apparent which one is most principled, or easiest to stick to. EDIT: Any explanation on the downvotes? I'd love to know how folks draw lines around eating sugary foods. If you've got it all figured out, please share your secrets!
- jtreminio 8y agoWatermelon, bananas, melon. These fruits are basically water + sugar + pulp in convenient packaging.
- alphagrep12345 8y agoAre you saying they're okay to eat? Or not?
- meruru 8y agoHe's saying they are basically sugar, so not okay. Strawberries are a good fruit to eat. Edit: The graph here is pretty helpful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit#Nutritional_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit#Nutritional_value Unfortunately it doesn't show the amount of sugar in each fruit.
- jtreminio 8y agoI'm sure you're an adult and can make your own choices, so don't take what I said as meaning "Don't eat this!". Just an observation that fruits are delicious _because_ they are so high in sugar. I have to avoid all fruits since I am on the keto diet. My mouth waters thinking about a cantaloupe drink, but if I drank even 4oz I'd be undoing a lot of work. I wouldn't eat fruits if I needed fiber, for that I would just add some psyllium husk to a drink.
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- ars 8y agoI can give up sugar, but I can't give up chocolate, and chocolate without sugar is inedible. I did get some 70% chocolate though, just enough sugar to be edible, but not sweet exactly.
- cauliflower2718 8y agoTrader Joe's sells Montezuma's 100% dark chocolate, which I enjoy, and I sometimes eat sweets.
- burke 8y agoI tried a 100% dark chocolate bar on a whim a couple of weeks back. As expected, it was not great. It was like over-extracted espresso in solid form.
- abawany 8y agoGhiradelli's 86% was surprisingly awesome imo, compared to the corresponding Lindt, which took some effort to finish off.
- cryptonector 8y agoI eat 100% chocolate only. I can't stand the sugar even in 87% chocolate -- I find that inedible. Not all 100% chocolate is great, but some brands are excellent.
- amasad 8y agoWhat's your favorite 100%?
- cryptonector 8y agoCallebaut. I buy 5lb bags of 100% chips.
- nightski 8y agoTry Lily's Chocolate. It's incredible and has very good ingredients. They have dark or sweeter versions and are sweetened with stevia & erythritol.
- paulcole 8y agoIs this the thread where we humblebrag about how we find desserts (sometimes even bread) too sweet?
- geowwy 8y agoI think everyone agrees sugar is bad, but I'm pretty sure it's only part of the picture. The amount of sugar (and other sweeteners) we eat has actually gone down in the last 20 years, but we haven't seen a drop in obesity or other metabolic diseases at all. My gut feeling is vegetable oils are another part of the problem. Unlike sugar, we keep eating more and more of them. And unlike sugar, we only started eating them around 100 years ago. There are a few nutrition people talking about vegetable oils but it doesn't have the same mass consciousness as sugar. Maybe because there are still old school nutritionists telling us we should avoid saturated fats.
- randomacct3847 8y agoNot sure where you got the stat on sugar consumption...it’s not really just sugar it’s carb consumption in general and I would be very surprised if that was trending downward at all. Vegetable oils are not good but would not say that by itself is the issue. It’s the carbs you’re eating that is being cooked in vegetable oils.
- geowwy 8y agoThere is a summary here: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2015/11/carbohydrate-sugar-and-obesity-in.html http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2015/11/carbohydrate-s... Data is sourced from USDA, you download it from their website There are other sources if you feel like Googling
- randomacct3847 8y agoThis is just some random guy’s blog. Sorry but I hardly believe any entity, govt or not, could accurately map out the % of calories that come from carbs for all Americans year over year going back a few decades.
- matthewmacleod 8y agoYou could look at the actual data, instead of taking the “I don’t like this so I’m going to go with my own assumptions” approach.
- cryptonector 8y agoIf you get sugar lows easily, as I do, you learn to hate sugar. I try hard to avoid sugar.
- randomacct3847 8y agoI’m on a lazy keto and never been one to crave sweets so it wasn’t that difficult for me to give it up completely. Occasionally if I’m having a rare drink I’ll make a margarita with truvia and can’t really taste any difference between it and real sugar.
- skybrian 8y agoI'm not quite sure if this is talking about the same research but it seems relevant: "Important note: there’s a lot of craziness out there around “keto” diets, and this does not mean that a ketogenic diet prevents cancer or is a treatment for it. No, what it means is that if you’re a cancer patient taking a PI3K inhibitor, a ketogenic diet could help the drug to work, and that’s it. In fact, in at least one rodent model (AML), putting the animals on the diet actually accelerated the cancer before the PI3K inhibitor treatment began, so be aware." http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2018/11/16/pi3k-inhibitors-youre-doing-it-wrong http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2018/11/16/pi3...
- RickJWagner 8y agoSad but true. All those Reese's Peanut Butter eggs that are now being sold are deadly. If you have some, send them to me. I'll dispose of them.