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Funny like eat well, sleep enough and get exercice is getting rediscovered again and again.

randomsearch 8y ago
I think that is strange. Why aren’t we told this by our family, by our teachers, by society? Probably the most important thing you do to improve your health.
- radiator 8y ago
  We are being told about it, but it is considered old-fashioned. Also, when you are young, the effects of breaking those rules are less severe. But then, gradually and slowly, you are not so young anymore.
  - keerthiko 8y ago
    It's considered old-fashioned because what we're told about tends to be unsubstantiated pseudo science as often as not, with lots of contradictory advice and weak explanations. I think everyone knows "quality food, exercise and sleep is good for you", but noone knows what that is for everyone. It varies from person to person, circumstance to circumstance, and the effects (good or bad) are hard to observe and correlate to choices, so it's hard to justify or blame them accurately. Especially when the accepted "facts" keep flip-flopping every 5-10 years (fats are bad! fats are good! sugar is bad! sugar is good! phasic sleep is good! no, you should sleep 8 hours in one go! you should always sleep in the middle of the night! no, it's possible daytime sleep is better for you!) At some point, it feels like if you just make random lifestyle choices, even a broken clock will be right twice a day? Nutrition and sleep science are both still very loosey-goosey and the surprising thing to me is that we don't invest in significantly more in-depth research to find better metrics and measurements and baseline principles to teach kids.
    - buzzerbetrayed 8y ago
      I think you explained the problem perfectly. I would pay someone good money if they could just tell me what "quality food, exercise, and sleep is good for you" meant in excruciating detail. If I knew exactly what I could eat and how I could work out to get the most health benefits it would make such a huge difference. Instead I feel like there are a thousand different opinions out there, all backed by a thousand different (and usually flawed) studies. As someone who loves things that are backed by science, it frustrates me that I can't find the "right" answer (at least for the average person). And maybe the answer is out there but I just don't know where to look. If so, please advise.
- poink 8y ago
  I don't know about you, but my family and teachers were at least as fat as I was. The ones that weren't were more likely to owe that fact to cocaine and/or nicotine than a healthy diet. They could all tell you that you needed to "eat right and exercise" -- to the point that it became a cliche, and I hate saying it to other people for that reason -- but none of them knew how to do those things properly. Society has all the info you need readily available, but you have to go looking for it (which is trivial in the age of Google and YouTube, but not so much even 20 years ago). Pushing "fat free" Twinkies and other nutritionally-bankrupt "food" is a lot more lucrative than selling broccoli.

I think that is strange. Why aren’t we told this by our family, by our teachers, by society? Probably the most important thing you do to improve your health.

radiator 8y ago
We are being told about it, but it is considered old-fashioned. Also, when you are young, the effects of breaking those rules are less severe. But then, gradually and slowly, you are not so young anymore.
- keerthiko 8y ago
  It's considered old-fashioned because what we're told about tends to be unsubstantiated pseudo science as often as not, with lots of contradictory advice and weak explanations. I think everyone knows "quality food, exercise and sleep is good for you", but noone knows what that is for everyone. It varies from person to person, circumstance to circumstance, and the effects (good or bad) are hard to observe and correlate to choices, so it's hard to justify or blame them accurately. Especially when the accepted "facts" keep flip-flopping every 5-10 years (fats are bad! fats are good! sugar is bad! sugar is good! phasic sleep is good! no, you should sleep 8 hours in one go! you should always sleep in the middle of the night! no, it's possible daytime sleep is better for you!) At some point, it feels like if you just make random lifestyle choices, even a broken clock will be right twice a day? Nutrition and sleep science are both still very loosey-goosey and the surprising thing to me is that we don't invest in significantly more in-depth research to find better metrics and measurements and baseline principles to teach kids.
  - buzzerbetrayed 8y ago
    I think you explained the problem perfectly. I would pay someone good money if they could just tell me what "quality food, exercise, and sleep is good for you" meant in excruciating detail. If I knew exactly what I could eat and how I could work out to get the most health benefits it would make such a huge difference. Instead I feel like there are a thousand different opinions out there, all backed by a thousand different (and usually flawed) studies. As someone who loves things that are backed by science, it frustrates me that I can't find the "right" answer (at least for the average person). And maybe the answer is out there but I just don't know where to look. If so, please advise.
poink 8y ago
I don't know about you, but my family and teachers were at least as fat as I was. The ones that weren't were more likely to owe that fact to cocaine and/or nicotine than a healthy diet. They could all tell you that you needed to "eat right and exercise" -- to the point that it became a cliche, and I hate saying it to other people for that reason -- but none of them knew how to do those things properly. Society has all the info you need readily available, but you have to go looking for it (which is trivial in the age of Google and YouTube, but not so much even 20 years ago). Pushing "fat free" Twinkies and other nutritionally-bankrupt "food" is a lot more lucrative than selling broccoli.