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> The best course of action here is to flag the offending comments, rather than the entire thread. The best course of action for my mental well-being is to fla

by novia 8y ago

> The best course of action here is to flag the offending comments, rather than the entire thread. The best course of action for my mental well-being is to flag the whole thread and move on without reading the comments. Unfortunately I'm already in here, so I am flagging the particularly egregious comments, as well as vouching for the dead comments that I think were unjustly buried. > Just because something gets trolls, doesn't mean the whole thing should be destroyed or censored. One flag doesn't destroy an entire thread. It's a numbers game and I'm adding my vote to the pile. If the thread dies, people who think it is valuable can vouch for it.

anonytrary 8y ago
> The best course of action for my mental well-being is to flag the whole thread and move on without reading the comments. Guidelines: > Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did. Your comments here suggest that you have a personal problem with the article. Articles should not be flagged for how their words and numbers make us feel, they should be flagged if they are off-topic, spam, or not intellectually stimulating. This article abides by the rules and thus should not have been flagged by a neutral actor.
- novia 8y ago
  > If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did. Oops! I'll keep this in mind for the future. But the cat's out of the bag already here so... > Articles should not be flagged for how their words and numbers make us feel, they should be flagged if they are off-topic, spam, or not intellectually stimulating. I maintain that I am flagging this because I consider it off-topic and not intellectually stimulating.
  - anonytrary 8y ago
    > I maintain that I am flagging this because I consider it off-topic and not intellectually stimulating. The discussion happening in this thread does not support your conclusions. As per the HN guidelines: > Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. There is an interesting phenomenon here -- that sex rates are apparently changing very significantly. Whether or not you personally were inspired the post, it is clear that this has provoked plenty of intellectually stimulating discussion here. If the flag button is abused, it makes the moderator's jobs harder. To properly flag posts, a good rule of thumb is to ask these questions before flagging a post: 1. Are people having civil discussions and learning new points of view in a constructive manner? Whether or not you are interested or able to participate in the discussions has no bearing on the answer to this question. 2. If the post isn't about computers/technology, is there something academic about the post? Is there data to discuss, its implications, etc.? If you can answer "yes" to these questions, you probably shouldn't be flagging the post.
    - novia 8y ago
      First you say "I don't mean to belittle your decision to flag the article" Then you write several comments doing just that.
      - anonytrary 8y ago
        I'm not belittling you, I'm trying to say that the flag button is very important, serves a specific purpose, and should not be treated like a downvote button. You are probably missing the point. As someone who has been a moderator, I've had to work with people who use their personal feelings to decide what should and shouldn't be censored -- and they make awful moderators. Moderators shouldn't censor things because "they personally feel it won't lead to discussion". That's what user interaction is for: the users decide what is and isn't appropriate for discussion with their votes and comments. The best moderators use objective criteria when exercising their powers. You might want to say that you're not a moderator and that you're just a user, but this also misses the point. HackerNews has been kind enough to give users a moderation tool (flagging), so you should treat the tool with respect. You have great power with that tool, and your contributions are very important, so it's important that we contribute in a good way.
  - sridca 8y ago
    I can state that this topic is quite interesting to me. I can also understand why women tend to feel dehumanized by it. But we as a society must not turn blind eye towards problems that afflict humanity. Withdrawing from painful reality won't do anything to address it.

by novia 8y ago

anonytrary 8y ago

> The best course of action for my mental well-being is to flag the whole thread and move on without reading the comments. Guidelines: > Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did. Your comments here suggest that you have a personal problem with the article. Articles should not be flagged for how their words and numbers make us feel, they should be flagged if they are off-topic, spam, or not intellectually stimulating. This article abides by the rules and thus should not have been flagged by a neutral actor.

novia 8y ago
> If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did. Oops! I'll keep this in mind for the future. But the cat's out of the bag already here so... > Articles should not be flagged for how their words and numbers make us feel, they should be flagged if they are off-topic, spam, or not intellectually stimulating. I maintain that I am flagging this because I consider it off-topic and not intellectually stimulating.
- anonytrary 8y ago
  > I maintain that I am flagging this because I consider it off-topic and not intellectually stimulating. The discussion happening in this thread does not support your conclusions. As per the HN guidelines: > Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. There is an interesting phenomenon here -- that sex rates are apparently changing very significantly. Whether or not you personally were inspired the post, it is clear that this has provoked plenty of intellectually stimulating discussion here. If the flag button is abused, it makes the moderator's jobs harder. To properly flag posts, a good rule of thumb is to ask these questions before flagging a post: 1. Are people having civil discussions and learning new points of view in a constructive manner? Whether or not you are interested or able to participate in the discussions has no bearing on the answer to this question. 2. If the post isn't about computers/technology, is there something academic about the post? Is there data to discuss, its implications, etc.? If you can answer "yes" to these questions, you probably shouldn't be flagging the post.
  - novia 8y ago
    First you say "I don't mean to belittle your decision to flag the article" Then you write several comments doing just that.
    - anonytrary 8y ago
      I'm not belittling you, I'm trying to say that the flag button is very important, serves a specific purpose, and should not be treated like a downvote button. You are probably missing the point. As someone who has been a moderator, I've had to work with people who use their personal feelings to decide what should and shouldn't be censored -- and they make awful moderators. Moderators shouldn't censor things because "they personally feel it won't lead to discussion". That's what user interaction is for: the users decide what is and isn't appropriate for discussion with their votes and comments. The best moderators use objective criteria when exercising their powers. You might want to say that you're not a moderator and that you're just a user, but this also misses the point. HackerNews has been kind enough to give users a moderation tool (flagging), so you should treat the tool with respect. You have great power with that tool, and your contributions are very important, so it's important that we contribute in a good way.
- sridca 8y ago
  I can state that this topic is quite interesting to me. I can also understand why women tend to feel dehumanized by it. But we as a society must not turn blind eye towards problems that afflict humanity. Withdrawing from painful reality won't do anything to address it.