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Where do you draw the line. If I throw up an open internet forum, am I responsible for administering everything that gets sent on it? If the Christchurch shoote

by Jedi72 8y ago

Where do you draw the line. If I throw up an open internet forum, am I responsible for administering everything that gets sent on it? If the Christchurch shooter had set up their own live-streaming box, who would we be getting mad at? Do you need a licence to broadcast on the internet now?? Every day we get further and gurther from a free internet, and its incredibly sad to see people on HN supporting this foolish sentiment.

neop1x 8y ago
Lots of people are killed by alcohol, why is it not banned already? Lots of people are killed in cars - let's ban them. You are not eating healthy, not enough vitamins and nutritions? Put you in jail! Tragedies happen, but why can't we live with them and try solve the causes instead of results? How many people read the manifesto written by the killer? I don't agree with any brutality but there are some points to think about. If they ban one service, they will use another one next time. Or people will watch it from an archive. Or they won't watch the it at all and trust news blindly. But the censorship will harm everyone. It will force people to post positive, optimistic posts only. It will control what is good and what is bad. It will present a fake ideal reality.
- timomax 8y ago
  This is a great analogy. Alcohol, cars are highly regulated. Facebook etc less so. Facebook will be much more heavily regulated in the coming years. It won't be banned, unless it breaks the regulations.
oska 8y ago
> Where do you draw the line. I fundamentally support free speech and acknowledge that protecting free speech includes protecting so-called 'hate speech'. I haven't read the Christchurch shooter's manifesto but as a manifesto I would definitely include it under free speech. However I wouldn't include live footage of violent criminal acts as free speech. Free speech is expression in words and ideas not acts. So yes, I would draw the line here and I think it is a well-defined line. (As a sidenote, a re-enactment of the crime using actors and where no-one actually dies would be free speech). I wouldn't necessarily single out Facebook as the privacy commissioner has done but I would agree that everyone who knowingly transmits and shares this video is doing a bad thing. Again, it's not free speech it's the sharing of a mass snuff film. Which is sick.

by Jedi72 8y ago

neop1x 8y ago

Lots of people are killed by alcohol, why is it not banned already? Lots of people are killed in cars - let's ban them. You are not eating healthy, not enough vitamins and nutritions? Put you in jail! Tragedies happen, but why can't we live with them and try solve the causes instead of results? How many people read the manifesto written by the killer? I don't agree with any brutality but there are some points to think about. If they ban one service, they will use another one next time. Or people will watch it from an archive. Or they won't watch the it at all and trust news blindly. But the censorship will harm everyone. It will force people to post positive, optimistic posts only. It will control what is good and what is bad. It will present a fake ideal reality.

timomax 8y ago
This is a great analogy. Alcohol, cars are highly regulated. Facebook etc less so. Facebook will be much more heavily regulated in the coming years. It won't be banned, unless it breaks the regulations.

oska 8y ago

> Where do you draw the line. I fundamentally support free speech and acknowledge that protecting free speech includes protecting so-called 'hate speech'. I haven't read the Christchurch shooter's manifesto but as a manifesto I would definitely include it under free speech. However I wouldn't include live footage of violent criminal acts as free speech. Free speech is expression in words and ideas not acts. So yes, I would draw the line here and I think it is a well-defined line. (As a sidenote, a re-enactment of the crime using actors and where no-one actually dies would be free speech). I wouldn't necessarily single out Facebook as the privacy commissioner has done but I would agree that everyone who knowingly transmits and shares this video is doing a bad thing. Again, it's not free speech it's the sharing of a mass snuff film. Which is sick.