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That's your opinion. No matter how absolute you phrase it, it's not a fact. And I've seen enough suffering and death to know that not everybody shares your opi

That's your opinion. No matter how absolute you phrase it, it's not a fact. And I've seen enough suffering and death to know that not everybody shares your opinion. I've seen people who, when they were healthy, held opinions just like yours beg for death when their time had come. Count your blessings that you've not known pain, fear, or panic like the dying do.

diminoten 8y ago
It's not my opinion, it's objective fact; after death there is literally nothingness forever, and even excruciating pain is something; you can react to it, decide things about it, etc. Those are facts. Also you know absolutely nothing about me. Don't pretend like you do.
- kzzzznot 8y ago
  You sound very sure and angry about all these things. What's really bothering you?
  - diminoten 8y ago
    I am sure, I'm not angry, and nothing at all is bothering me. Why ask such a personal question that's completely off topic, though?
- monodeldiablo 8y ago
  > Life is still life, and death is still infinitely worse. ^^ That's an opinion, phrased as if it was a fact. It's a value judgement and nothing more. I respect that it's your opinion, but just because you fervently believe it doesn't make it objectively true. If you wish to engage in a meaningful and productive conversation, you'll need to be more honest about separating your opinions from fact. I think that, underneath all the shouting, you have a very interesting take on the issue. I'd like to discuss it. But it's drowned out by your inability to recognize that other people can have a different -- and equally valid -- interpretation of what "quality of life" means. (Also, no: You cannot "decide things" about excruciating pain. It takes over a person's ability to reason. Chronic, debilitating pain very much robs a person of their agency.)
  - diminoten 8y ago
    It's called persuasive writing. If I couched everything with "I think" my 4th grade English teacher would come out from behind a bush and swat my hands. The fact that you can identify what my opinion is and still not address it, preferring to have this semantic argument, is a great example of someone avoiding the conversation because they know they're in the wrong.

diminoten 8y ago

It's not my opinion, it's objective fact; after death there is literally nothingness forever, and even excruciating pain is something; you can react to it, decide things about it, etc. Those are facts. Also you know absolutely nothing about me. Don't pretend like you do.

kzzzznot 8y ago
You sound very sure and angry about all these things. What's really bothering you?
- diminoten 8y ago
  I am sure, I'm not angry, and nothing at all is bothering me. Why ask such a personal question that's completely off topic, though?
monodeldiablo 8y ago
> Life is still life, and death is still infinitely worse. ^^ That's an opinion, phrased as if it was a fact. It's a value judgement and nothing more. I respect that it's your opinion, but just because you fervently believe it doesn't make it objectively true. If you wish to engage in a meaningful and productive conversation, you'll need to be more honest about separating your opinions from fact. I think that, underneath all the shouting, you have a very interesting take on the issue. I'd like to discuss it. But it's drowned out by your inability to recognize that other people can have a different -- and equally valid -- interpretation of what "quality of life" means. (Also, no: You cannot "decide things" about excruciating pain. It takes over a person's ability to reason. Chronic, debilitating pain very much robs a person of their agency.)
- diminoten 8y ago
  It's called persuasive writing. If I couched everything with "I think" my 4th grade English teacher would come out from behind a bush and swat my hands. The fact that you can identify what my opinion is and still not address it, preferring to have this semantic argument, is a great example of someone avoiding the conversation because they know they're in the wrong.