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This is not the same as Netflix and competitors. No one is stopping a steam user from buying from epic store since its an one off purchase , but to watch an ama

This is not the same as Netflix and competitors. No one is stopping a steam user from buying from epic store since its an one off purchase , but to watch an amazon exclusive you need an additional subscription.

dleslie 8y ago
Except that the store itself is a deterrent, for a whole laundry list of reasons you can seek elsewhere. For me, the deal breakers are: 1. No user reviews. 2. Refund system is allegedly horrible and unreliable. 3. No cloud saves. 4. No mod workshop. 5. No forums. 6. No store-provided, NAT-punching, low latency networking. The last three have made for many of my best gaming experiences in recent years
- mises 8y ago
  For me, one issue is the forty-something percent stake tencent has. Both in that I don't trust their software and that I have serious ethical concerns about directly supporting china. I know it's essentially impossible to not buy anything from them, but I would say videogames are definitely something people can easily stop buying.
- cortesoft 8y ago
  You also can't buy a game for a friend.
- kyriakos 8y ago
  That's just a matter of competition catching up though. From a consumer perspective multiple stores should have a positive effect. On the other hand streaming services are not benefiting the consumer directly.
  - dleslie 8y ago
    Those things cost money. It's where a good chunk of Valve's cut goes.
- Joakal 8y ago
  Store closes shop. Your "purchases" turn out to be for a game licence that only works if the shop servers are up. I've been burnt by this, most commonly with multiplayer games that only work with bankrupt company's server.
cannedslime 8y ago
The Epic Launcher was recently caught datamining everything from running processes to root certificates. I would never install it personally. It wouldn't make me pirate either, games are easy to boycott, I did the same with EA and Ubisoft when they went rotten, havent looked back, even convinced some friends not to buy from EA and Ubi :)
- gruez 8y ago
  >The Epic Launcher was recently caught datamining everything from running processes to root certificates seems to have originated from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_game_store_spyware_tracking_and_you/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_g... and is alarmist at best. see: https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_game_store_spyware_tracking_and_you/eik0h76/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_g...

dleslie 8y ago

Except that the store itself is a deterrent, for a whole laundry list of reasons you can seek elsewhere. For me, the deal breakers are: 1. No user reviews. 2. Refund system is allegedly horrible and unreliable. 3. No cloud saves. 4. No mod workshop. 5. No forums. 6. No store-provided, NAT-punching, low latency networking. The last three have made for many of my best gaming experiences in recent years

mises 8y ago
For me, one issue is the forty-something percent stake tencent has. Both in that I don't trust their software and that I have serious ethical concerns about directly supporting china. I know it's essentially impossible to not buy anything from them, but I would say videogames are definitely something people can easily stop buying.
cortesoft 8y ago
You also can't buy a game for a friend.
kyriakos 8y ago
That's just a matter of competition catching up though. From a consumer perspective multiple stores should have a positive effect. On the other hand streaming services are not benefiting the consumer directly.
- dleslie 8y ago
  Those things cost money. It's where a good chunk of Valve's cut goes.
Joakal 8y ago
Store closes shop. Your "purchases" turn out to be for a game licence that only works if the shop servers are up. I've been burnt by this, most commonly with multiplayer games that only work with bankrupt company's server.

cannedslime 8y ago

The Epic Launcher was recently caught datamining everything from running processes to root certificates. I would never install it personally. It wouldn't make me pirate either, games are easy to boycott, I did the same with EA and Ubisoft when they went rotten, havent looked back, even convinced some friends not to buy from EA and Ubi :)

gruez 8y ago
>The Epic Launcher was recently caught datamining everything from running processes to root certificates seems to have originated from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_game_store_spyware_tracking_and_you/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_g... and is alarmist at best. see: https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_game_store_spyware_tracking_and_you/eik0h76/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_g...