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I am interested in your definition of "proper" jobs after you exclude NHS nurses, cleaners and shop workers. You sound like a snob from that statement. Perhaps

by collyw 8y ago

I am interested in your definition of "proper" jobs after you exclude NHS nurses, cleaners and shop workers. You sound like a snob from that statement. Perhaps "well paid jobs" would have been a better way of phrasing it?

esotericn 8y ago
I mean, he did define it. A job that supports the worker in taking an efficient, stress free form of transport in to work is a "proper" job. A job that pays so little that they'll skimp on their commute every single day is not a "proper" job. I know people in London who take multiple buses in to work in the morning rather than using the tube. It takes them significantly longer. It's cheaper. They do it because they don't have "proper" jobs; their employers don't care about them.
Theodores 8y ago
I self identify with the cleaning staff, the night security guard and the others that are undervalued in the workplace. I also grew up working in retail and did factory jobs. As for nurses, I met the one that saved my life in the supermarket recently and I certainly expressed my gratitude, much to her surprise! I assure you that I am fully tongue in cheek when it comes to 'proper' jobs. I do a little bit of coding and not telling other people what to do. For me coding is one of the few truly creative disciplines open to me but it is actual work. I don't object to anyone being well paid if they work for it. Maybe 'rentier class' should have been my turn of phrase, but I am British and my humour would be fully understood in Brum if not in Alabama. I keep forgetting American language is so different. We use 'bin' to mean a 'wastepaper basket'. We don't need the extra explaining words that bloat out the lingo but we do have things like 'u' in colour. The full sketch on this private joke us Brits have on American use of the language is worth a watch just for next time English is over literal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wSw3IWRJa0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wSw3IWRJa0

by collyw 8y ago

esotericn 8y ago

I mean, he did define it. A job that supports the worker in taking an efficient, stress free form of transport in to work is a "proper" job. A job that pays so little that they'll skimp on their commute every single day is not a "proper" job. I know people in London who take multiple buses in to work in the morning rather than using the tube. It takes them significantly longer. It's cheaper. They do it because they don't have "proper" jobs; their employers don't care about them.

Theodores 8y ago

I self identify with the cleaning staff, the night security guard and the others that are undervalued in the workplace. I also grew up working in retail and did factory jobs. As for nurses, I met the one that saved my life in the supermarket recently and I certainly expressed my gratitude, much to her surprise! I assure you that I am fully tongue in cheek when it comes to 'proper' jobs. I do a little bit of coding and not telling other people what to do. For me coding is one of the few truly creative disciplines open to me but it is actual work. I don't object to anyone being well paid if they work for it. Maybe 'rentier class' should have been my turn of phrase, but I am British and my humour would be fully understood in Brum if not in Alabama. I keep forgetting American language is so different. We use 'bin' to mean a 'wastepaper basket'. We don't need the extra explaining words that bloat out the lingo but we do have things like 'u' in colour. The full sketch on this private joke us Brits have on American use of the language is worth a watch just for next time English is over literal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wSw3IWRJa0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wSw3IWRJa0