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I don't just feel cell phone radiation, it has a visible effect on my body. If I'm carrying a cell in my pocket or near my legs, some of the muscles (I believe

I don't just feel cell phone radiation, it has a visible effect on my body. If I'm carrying a cell in my pocket or near my legs, some of the muscles (I believe it's the muscles) in my legs will begin to vibrate, as though they are having spasms. This happens very frequently when I have my mobile data turned on and the phone near my legs. When mobile data is off, it doesn't happen. I'd be happy to show anyone this effect any time. I guess I could make a video. The effect is very reproducible.

SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
I’m not saying I don’t beleive you; just that I don’t think anyone has ever actually repusproduced cell phone sensitivity (detection) in a controlled environment. How would you know if it’s just in your head?
- driverdan 8y ago
  > How would you know if it’s just in your head? Please don't say "just" in your head. It's implying that psychological conditions aren't as significant or real as physical ones. They are very real and need to be treated just like anything else.
  - ebg13 8y ago
    That's both true and also not salient to the subject at hand.
  - SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
    Yes... but when the discussion is DONT MAKE 5G because someone may have a condition in their head, you see the difference between your point and the topic at hand right?
  - Avamander 8y ago
    I will say it's "just in your head", because it is. Some person's mental illness shouldn't be a reason the rest can't build wind farms, vaccinate people or build 5G substations.
    - driverdan 8y ago
      I'm not saying we should allow pseudoscience. I mean the individuals should be treated with respect and their maladies should be treated seriously. That's independent of taking their claims as truth.
  - artificialLimbs 8y ago
    Why would this need to be treated?
- artificialLimbs 8y ago
  "How would you know if it's just in your head?" Well, I suppose I wouldn't? I'd be interested to hear how a placebo effect could cause muscle spams, but I have certainly heard of things more strange. I monitor my muscle spasms (and the rest of my body for that matter) fairly closely. The spasms don't happen often, maybe once a month or two (at most? Not sure... it's rare..) if I'm not carrying a cell in pocket with the data connection on.
darkpuma 8y ago
If that were actually true, it would be an incredible medical discovery. The muscles in your legs that are effected, are they biological muscles? Your legs aren't the artificial limbs your username is referring to, are they? Your story is much more plausible if your legs are artificial.
- artificialLimbs 8y ago
  Not referring to any artificial limbs.

SlowRobotAhead 8y ago

I’m not saying I don’t beleive you; just that I don’t think anyone has ever actually repusproduced cell phone sensitivity (detection) in a controlled environment. How would you know if it’s just in your head?

driverdan 8y ago
> How would you know if it’s just in your head? Please don't say "just" in your head. It's implying that psychological conditions aren't as significant or real as physical ones. They are very real and need to be treated just like anything else.
- ebg13 8y ago
  That's both true and also not salient to the subject at hand.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
  Yes... but when the discussion is DONT MAKE 5G because someone may have a condition in their head, you see the difference between your point and the topic at hand right?
- Avamander 8y ago
  I will say it's "just in your head", because it is. Some person's mental illness shouldn't be a reason the rest can't build wind farms, vaccinate people or build 5G substations.
  - driverdan 8y ago
    I'm not saying we should allow pseudoscience. I mean the individuals should be treated with respect and their maladies should be treated seriously. That's independent of taking their claims as truth.
- artificialLimbs 8y ago
  Why would this need to be treated?
artificialLimbs 8y ago
"How would you know if it's just in your head?" Well, I suppose I wouldn't? I'd be interested to hear how a placebo effect could cause muscle spams, but I have certainly heard of things more strange. I monitor my muscle spasms (and the rest of my body for that matter) fairly closely. The spasms don't happen often, maybe once a month or two (at most? Not sure... it's rare..) if I'm not carrying a cell in pocket with the data connection on.

darkpuma 8y ago

If that were actually true, it would be an incredible medical discovery. The muscles in your legs that are effected, are they biological muscles? Your legs aren't the artificial limbs your username is referring to, are they? Your story is much more plausible if your legs are artificial.

artificialLimbs 8y ago
Not referring to any artificial limbs.