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Except taxi ranks are a queue of fungible vehicles; uber/lyft's are "bespoke" so the exact same structure won't work quite as well. But it wouldn't be hard to

Except taxi ranks are a queue of fungible vehicles; uber/lyft's are "bespoke" so the exact same structure won't work quite as well. But it wouldn't be hard to make a pickup/dropoff area. I suspect there already is one at most places, it's just a pissy, petty policy that doesn't allow ridesharing (etc) to use it.

mcculley 8y ago
It’s more than policy. It is architecture. As I described above, I live in a new building. I step out into traffic to get into an Uber. This was an obvious thing to consider during this building’s design.
closeparen 8y ago
In SF planning meetings, I have seen buildings explicitly discouraged from accommodating pickup/dropoff on the theory that it would make traffic impacts worse (this is backwards) and undermine the “transit oriented” argument (harder to argue).
dredmorbius 8y ago
There's no reason why rideshare queues and car-rider assignments couldn't be fungible up to the point the passenger steps into the vehicle, special needs excepted.
- manigandham 8y ago
  Those are called taxis. Even then they only line up at major locations, not residential buildings.
  - dredmorbius 8y ago
    No. Rideshare still behaes ona requ basis. But the vehicle at the head of the queue serves the passenger first requesting a ride, special needs excepted. Out-of-order arrival of rides is addressed that way.
    - manigandham 8y ago
      That means the rider wouldn't know what vehicle is coming and when, which goes against the whole experience. Also it's unlikely for there to be that many rides queued up at a single residential location which is why they aren't queued up there in the first place.
      - dredmorbius 8y ago
        it's unlikely for there to be that many rides queued up at a single residential location The premise of this thread was that there were.
        manigandham 8y ago
        I think it's about having a pickup/dropoff area, not necessarily a queuing system, especially because ridesharing does not use traditional waiting queues.
        dredmorbius 8y ago
        Again, specifically not the case here. You are having a different discussion. "if there's already a taxi rank, then uber should be using that space to pick-up/drop-off. If there isn't, then the current building is already unfriendly to taxis." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19596930 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19596930

mcculley 8y ago

It’s more than policy. It is architecture. As I described above, I live in a new building. I step out into traffic to get into an Uber. This was an obvious thing to consider during this building’s design.

closeparen 8y ago

In SF planning meetings, I have seen buildings explicitly discouraged from accommodating pickup/dropoff on the theory that it would make traffic impacts worse (this is backwards) and undermine the “transit oriented” argument (harder to argue).

dredmorbius 8y ago

There's no reason why rideshare queues and car-rider assignments couldn't be fungible up to the point the passenger steps into the vehicle, special needs excepted.

manigandham 8y ago
Those are called taxis. Even then they only line up at major locations, not residential buildings.
- dredmorbius 8y ago
  No. Rideshare still behaes ona requ basis. But the vehicle at the head of the queue serves the passenger first requesting a ride, special needs excepted. Out-of-order arrival of rides is addressed that way.
  - manigandham 8y ago
    That means the rider wouldn't know what vehicle is coming and when, which goes against the whole experience. Also it's unlikely for there to be that many rides queued up at a single residential location which is why they aren't queued up there in the first place.
    - dredmorbius 8y ago
      it's unlikely for there to be that many rides queued up at a single residential location The premise of this thread was that there were.
      - manigandham 8y ago
        I think it's about having a pickup/dropoff area, not necessarily a queuing system, especially because ridesharing does not use traditional waiting queues.
        dredmorbius 8y ago
        Again, specifically not the case here. You are having a different discussion. "if there's already a taxi rank, then uber should be using that space to pick-up/drop-off. If there isn't, then the current building is already unfriendly to taxis." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19596930 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19596930