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Holy Crap! Jason and DHH got 40 people to pay $1000 to hear them talk for a day about starting a company. Wow... Just... Wow... Dudes, really. Save your mon

Holy Crap! Jason and DHH got 40 people to pay $1000 to hear them talk for a day about starting a company. Wow... Just... Wow... Dudes, really. Save your money for ramen noodles and start hanging out at other Hacker News meetups[1]. Or, better yet, move to Silicon Valley, start attending meetups[2] and startup events[3]. Make a point of handing out business cards and asking people out for coffee. I can guarantee that within a year you'll become friends with any number of entrepreneurs who will give you similar or better advice for the price of a beer. Hell, if you move out here, come to a Hackers and Founders event, I'll buy you a beer. By the way, we're probably going to be turning Hackers and Founders into a non profit, because I feel like it's wrong to try make a quick buck off of hackers who are eating ramen noodles and trying to get a startup off the ground. YMMV </rant> ref: [1] https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmQExXr67OcTdDBZZl93MXZwaE4tWlQwTENVMnVQalE&hl=en#gid=0 https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmQExXr67OcTdDBZZl9... [2] http://www.hackersandfounders.com http://www.hackersandfounders.com [3] http://startupdigest.com/ http://startupdigest.com/

dazzla 16y ago
Meetups are great if you are lucky enough to live near one of them. Moving to Silicon Valley is not really a cheaper option.
maukdaddy 16y ago
FYI the startup community is far more than poor hackers starting a website. $1000 is CHEAP for valuable business knowledge. I'm paying a shit load more for my MBA, and would probably learn just as much in their class ;)
- iamelgringo 16y ago
  the startup community is far more than poor hackers starting a website I'm speaking from my personal of running Hackers and Founders Silicon Valley. We have 2000 members, and we get together for beer/networking every 2 weeks. It started with me and a few other hackers getting together in a bar every couple of weeks to talk about startups and give each other advice. The startup culture and community that I'm around is that of freely sharing business knowledge and helping each other succeed. That's what I'm referring to. I have made a conscious choice to network, be helpful and ask for advice when it's available an appropriate. Because of that, I've gotten advice over coffe/beer from Joel Spolsky, pg, any number of YC founders, Andy Bechtolsheim, Ben Horowitz, the former CEO of Alta Vista, etc... Business knowledge, connections and advice _are_ cheap if you put in the time and make the effort. Paying $1000 for 8 hours of business advice seem like a poor business decision to me. But, then I have a profoundly different belief about how startups can, do and should help each other out.
  - maukdaddy 16y ago
    They aren't mutually exclusive :)
cuchoperl 16y ago
Well, most of the advice was in their (free) book Getting Real and in its ($11.89) book Rework. From the tweets I see nothing new except that 37s logo is a guy saying hi.

dazzla 16y ago

Meetups are great if you are lucky enough to live near one of them. Moving to Silicon Valley is not really a cheaper option.

maukdaddy 16y ago

FYI the startup community is far more than poor hackers starting a website. $1000 is CHEAP for valuable business knowledge. I'm paying a shit load more for my MBA, and would probably learn just as much in their class ;)

iamelgringo 16y ago
the startup community is far more than poor hackers starting a website I'm speaking from my personal of running Hackers and Founders Silicon Valley. We have 2000 members, and we get together for beer/networking every 2 weeks. It started with me and a few other hackers getting together in a bar every couple of weeks to talk about startups and give each other advice. The startup culture and community that I'm around is that of freely sharing business knowledge and helping each other succeed. That's what I'm referring to. I have made a conscious choice to network, be helpful and ask for advice when it's available an appropriate. Because of that, I've gotten advice over coffe/beer from Joel Spolsky, pg, any number of YC founders, Andy Bechtolsheim, Ben Horowitz, the former CEO of Alta Vista, etc... Business knowledge, connections and advice _are_ cheap if you put in the time and make the effort. Paying $1000 for 8 hours of business advice seem like a poor business decision to me. But, then I have a profoundly different belief about how startups can, do and should help each other out.
- maukdaddy 16y ago
  They aren't mutually exclusive :)

cuchoperl 16y ago

Well, most of the advice was in their (free) book Getting Real and in its ($11.89) book Rework. From the tweets I see nothing new except that 37s logo is a guy saying hi.