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"You have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." Scott McNealy, former chairman of Sun Microsystems.

by kleiba 8y ago

alamortsubite 8y ago
(1999)
elmo2you 8y ago
The typical "accept reality and get over it" mentality has repeatedly and consistently been used throughout history to justify plunder. One might even wonder if it ever has been used for anything else. There was a time when legal businessmen, with sincerity, claimed that a dark skin color made you deserve to be slave. "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." ~ Frederic Bastiat
kerng 8y ago
Normalization of Deviance - we as the community of technical folks who have the engineering knowledge to tackle and highlight and help solve these issues should not follow that normalization. It's very dangerous. We need to continue highlighting unacceptable practices to drive privacy improvements in legislation. And we should establish ethics boards and education (ethical software engineering) amongst ourselves to stop building shady things.
matz1 8y ago
Yes, I would prefer to see solution that adapting to zero privacy life. Instead of trying to stop the flow of information.
skummetmaelk 8y ago
Ah yes. We should just accept body builders mugging us whenever we step outside because the reality is they are stronger than us.
- dingaling 8y ago
  The reason strong bad men don't rob us constantly us because other strong men are legally permitted to do violence unto them. I don't think that's a model that works for the Internet. Instead I think we should take Mr McNealy's words as prescient. Even if you protect your privacy, people you know are still willing to tag you in photos or upload their contact lists. Instead of pretending that we can remain private online perhaps we should be thinking about how to compartmentalise our online identities so that the whole 'us' can't be revealed by an inadvertent mouse click. TLDR: Scott was right, so let's work out what to do next.

"You have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." Scott McNealy, former chairman of Sun Microsystems.

by kleiba 8y ago

"You have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." Scott McNealy, former chairman of Sun Microsystems.

alamortsubite 8y ago

(1999)

elmo2you 8y ago

The typical "accept reality and get over it" mentality has repeatedly and consistently been used throughout history to justify plunder. One might even wonder if it ever has been used for anything else. There was a time when legal businessmen, with sincerity, claimed that a dark skin color made you deserve to be slave. "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." ~ Frederic Bastiat

kerng 8y ago

Normalization of Deviance - we as the community of technical folks who have the engineering knowledge to tackle and highlight and help solve these issues should not follow that normalization. It's very dangerous. We need to continue highlighting unacceptable practices to drive privacy improvements in legislation. And we should establish ethics boards and education (ethical software engineering) amongst ourselves to stop building shady things.

matz1 8y ago

Yes, I would prefer to see solution that adapting to zero privacy life. Instead of trying to stop the flow of information.

skummetmaelk 8y ago

Ah yes. We should just accept body builders mugging us whenever we step outside because the reality is they are stronger than us.

dingaling 8y ago
The reason strong bad men don't rob us constantly us because other strong men are legally permitted to do violence unto them. I don't think that's a model that works for the Internet. Instead I think we should take Mr McNealy's words as prescient. Even if you protect your privacy, people you know are still willing to tag you in photos or upload their contact lists. Instead of pretending that we can remain private online perhaps we should be thinking about how to compartmentalise our online identities so that the whole 'us' can't be revealed by an inadvertent mouse click. TLDR: Scott was right, so let's work out what to do next.