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>CMV: Asking peopel to stop using the "OK Hand" gesture because racists use it, just gives power to that hand sign and legitimizes the white power movement. Ho

by konart 8y ago

>CMV: Asking peopel to stop using the "OK Hand" gesture because racists use it, just gives power to that hand sign and legitimizes the white power movement. Holy crap, some people actually discuss something like this?

TeMPOraL 8y ago
What's worse, people actually believe such stuff. Then you get people on the media accused of being supporters of $evil-ideology because they scratched their nose the wrong way at a conference.
slfnflctd 8y ago
Honestly, I don't see what's wrong with that discussion topic. I personally haven't come to a conclusion myself. On one hand, knowing it's associated with racists makes me hesitate to ever use it. On the other hand, why should I let them change my behavior when a minuscule bit of research would show that I'm clearly not a racist? Like with many such things, it mostly depends on the context, but would be interested in the conversation and not so quick to dismiss it as pointless.
- konart 8y ago
  Really? For me it sounds like this - "Should we castrate men because some men are rapists?". >On one hand, knowing it's associated with racists I'm pretty sure this is just west's or even a certain number of countries problem. This topic is the second time I've personally ever heard\read that somebody uses this sign as something other than an "ok" sign. The first time I've read about it in someone's tweet - I even decided to call out to my friends\readers\etc and one guy from Canada new about this. Anyhow - no, nobody should stop using some sign just because a small, even if very vocal group of people started using in for whatever reason they have. Next time they will start to wear some color and what? We should stop wearing it? Last time I checked people are pretty damn good with wearing brown coats from Hugo Boss despite the obvious history facts. This is like building a cage around yourself just because there are a few stray dogs with rabies in the town. >dismiss I'm not saying it should be dismissed, if someone have questions or doubts - one should feel free to voice them, sure. I'm just amazed by the topic, or rather by the fact that some people haven't found an answer to this after so many years. If this helps them to find one - I'm glad.

by konart 8y ago

TeMPOraL 8y ago

What's worse, people actually believe such stuff. Then you get people on the media accused of being supporters of $evil-ideology because they scratched their nose the wrong way at a conference.

slfnflctd 8y ago

Honestly, I don't see what's wrong with that discussion topic. I personally haven't come to a conclusion myself. On one hand, knowing it's associated with racists makes me hesitate to ever use it. On the other hand, why should I let them change my behavior when a minuscule bit of research would show that I'm clearly not a racist? Like with many such things, it mostly depends on the context, but would be interested in the conversation and not so quick to dismiss it as pointless.

konart 8y ago
Really? For me it sounds like this - "Should we castrate men because some men are rapists?". >On one hand, knowing it's associated with racists I'm pretty sure this is just west's or even a certain number of countries problem. This topic is the second time I've personally ever heard\read that somebody uses this sign as something other than an "ok" sign. The first time I've read about it in someone's tweet - I even decided to call out to my friends\readers\etc and one guy from Canada new about this. Anyhow - no, nobody should stop using some sign just because a small, even if very vocal group of people started using in for whatever reason they have. Next time they will start to wear some color and what? We should stop wearing it? Last time I checked people are pretty damn good with wearing brown coats from Hugo Boss despite the obvious history facts. This is like building a cage around yourself just because there are a few stray dogs with rabies in the town. >dismiss I'm not saying it should be dismissed, if someone have questions or doubts - one should feel free to voice them, sure. I'm just amazed by the topic, or rather by the fact that some people haven't found an answer to this after so many years. If this helps them to find one - I'm glad.