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Bullshit. All of that is going on just fine. Same for the phones. Bad norms tend to sideline the overall awareness, but that does not mean it is not happenin

Bullshit. All of that is going on just fine. Same for the phones. Bad norms tend to sideline the overall awareness, but that does not mean it is not happening. And the key thing here is that it is possible and legal. Not everyone will, and that is OK. It is all about the people who do these things. Frankly, you would be amazed at what people will do when encouraged and empowered.

coldtea 8y ago
>All of that is going on just fine. Fixing your own car has been "going on just fine"? In what planet? Except if you mean basics like changing oils and stuff. This is more like it: "Training organisations, body shops and all those in the independent sector can’t keep pace with the speed of change in vehicle technology,” says Jason Moseley, executive director of the National Association of Bodyshops. “For example, there’s more computer code in a current Mercedes-Benz S-Class than in a Boeing Dreamliner.” This increase in complexity means body shops are taking longer to repair cars and charging more to do so as a result, forcing insurers to write off some cars that are still relatively young. Concerned by the trend, car makers have been heavily discounting replacement parts in a practice called ‘total loss avoidance’, intended to save cars from being written off early in their life. Malcolm Neil, from claims management firm Inter-est, agrees that manufacturers’ rapidly evolving techniques of vehicle construction and the repair challenges new cars present are a growing concern. “Years ago, cars were all of similar construction, but not any more,” he says. You can’t just chop out damaged panels on a modern car, because you might cut through a sensor or its wires. For example, to replace the front wing on the current BMW 5 Series takes three times longer than on its predecessor, because first you’ve got to strip out the whole bootlid and disconnect all sorts of ECUs and batteries in it.” And that doesn't even take into account the dozens of cpus and electronic systems that can go wrong, or modern complex transmissions. (And let's not get in hybrid and electric cars). Nobody would ever say those are as repairable as 60s, 70s, 80s, even 90s cars...
- ddingus 8y ago
  I never spoke to how easy any of that is, only that people are doing it anyway. And they could document the car, or teardowns can be made easier legally. The core point being we can either discourage or empower. Where we do the latter, all sorts of solutions to those challenges will be found. Heck, I just did a component level repair on my Ford SUV. Mid 2000 era. The whole sub system is a few hundred dollars. There are people doing refurbishments for less. I bought a MOSFET and used the skills I have. Not repairing things is a huge waste. I do not care how complex they are, only that people are totally in the clear to learn how to repair, repurpose. Doing that is basic for me. Grew up that way and never really quit. Tons of us out there doing way more than people think.

coldtea 8y ago

>All of that is going on just fine. Fixing your own car has been "going on just fine"? In what planet? Except if you mean basics like changing oils and stuff. This is more like it: "Training organisations, body shops and all those in the independent sector can’t keep pace with the speed of change in vehicle technology,” says Jason Moseley, executive director of the National Association of Bodyshops. “For example, there’s more computer code in a current Mercedes-Benz S-Class than in a Boeing Dreamliner.” This increase in complexity means body shops are taking longer to repair cars and charging more to do so as a result, forcing insurers to write off some cars that are still relatively young. Concerned by the trend, car makers have been heavily discounting replacement parts in a practice called ‘total loss avoidance’, intended to save cars from being written off early in their life. Malcolm Neil, from claims management firm Inter-est, agrees that manufacturers’ rapidly evolving techniques of vehicle construction and the repair challenges new cars present are a growing concern. “Years ago, cars were all of similar construction, but not any more,” he says. You can’t just chop out damaged panels on a modern car, because you might cut through a sensor or its wires. For example, to replace the front wing on the current BMW 5 Series takes three times longer than on its predecessor, because first you’ve got to strip out the whole bootlid and disconnect all sorts of ECUs and batteries in it.” And that doesn't even take into account the dozens of cpus and electronic systems that can go wrong, or modern complex transmissions. (And let's not get in hybrid and electric cars). Nobody would ever say those are as repairable as 60s, 70s, 80s, even 90s cars...

ddingus 8y ago
I never spoke to how easy any of that is, only that people are doing it anyway. And they could document the car, or teardowns can be made easier legally. The core point being we can either discourage or empower. Where we do the latter, all sorts of solutions to those challenges will be found. Heck, I just did a component level repair on my Ford SUV. Mid 2000 era. The whole sub system is a few hundred dollars. There are people doing refurbishments for less. I bought a MOSFET and used the skills I have. Not repairing things is a huge waste. I do not care how complex they are, only that people are totally in the clear to learn how to repair, repurpose. Doing that is basic for me. Grew up that way and never really quit. Tons of us out there doing way more than people think.