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Apples and oranges. PRISM was not these companies giving Carte Blanche access to data, it was narrow to specific government warrants for specific individuals pe
by cromwellian 8y ago
Apples and oranges. PRISM was not these companies giving Carte Blanche access to data, it was narrow to specific government warrants for specific individuals per later media reports, and nothing like the Motel 6 or AT&T issues. It sounds to me like PRISM = “I have a warrant for individual XYZ, please zip up all their account data and deliver it electronically somewhere for the FBI”
A separate program, MUSCULAR targeted dark fiber inter-data center links against companies which suggests that the tech companies were not handing out backdoors as they were accused of by Greenwald/Guardian reporting.
- cheez 8y agoI don't really see how it's different aside from semantics.
- cromwellian 8y agoThe root of this thread was that then tech companies routinely rebuff requests and the example of AT&T was given and Motel 6 was referenced. There’s a big difference between “show me your warrant” and “oh, the government asked nicely? I’ll give you the data as a favor” It’s not just semantics. There’s a huge difference between being compelled and being a willing participant who doesn’t push back. What evidence do you have that the tech companies don’t rebuff or push back on requests that don’t have the full force of the courts behind them?
- cheez 8y agoNo way to know since warrants are approved by secret courts. I'm going to guess zero pushback.