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This seems like it ties into an article from The Atlantic last year [1] on the under appreciated threat of increasing antifungal resistance. In particular, ther

by xoa 8y ago

This seems like it ties into an article from The Atlantic last year [1] on the under appreciated threat of increasing antifungal resistance. In particular, there are lots of antifungal agents out there that are fit for use on plants, but only a very small number triazole agents that are safe for humans. It should be completely illegal worldwide to use triazoles in anything except prescription treatments. This isn't even like antibiotics where there is necessarily overlap between mammalian usage in agriculture vs humans, there are non-triazole non-human safe agents that won't hurt plants one bit. An important takeaway from that article was that it's not too late: agricultural azole usage is actually a fairly recent thing in much of the world and hasn't been in the US for example long. Quoting: >"Until recently, the United States was exempt from concerns about azole-resistant Aspergillus. Azole use here has historically been low, a small percentage of what happens in Europe—though the numbers that record it, kept by the U.S. Geological Survey, may be incorrect because submitting them is voluntary. Nevertheless, tebuconazole use in the United States rose five times over from 1995 to 2015; the crops that accounted for the most use were wheat and corn. Meanwhile, a Centers for Disease Control (CDC) poll of state health laboratories found no cases of resistance as recently as 2014. But last month, the CDC disclosed that 10 patients treated in the United States have been diagnosed with triazole-resistant Aspergillus bearing the mutations associated with agriculture. In a report in its weekly bulletin, the agency analyzed the records of seven of them. Four of them had never received azoles before they were diagnosed with the resistant strain. Three of the patients died." It's worth trying to stamp down on it legally ASAP. But it needs more public attention and political pressure, which makes this report that health authorities have been covering up the seriousness even worse. ---- 1: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/11/when-tulips-kill/574489/ https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/11/when-tul...

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DONT_BE_A_MORON 8y ago
> It's worth trying to stamp down on it legally ASAP What's the point? People want to regulate agents that could accelerate the rise of resistance in the populations they target, people want to clutch their pearls and call out anivaxxers while ignoring billions of dollars in damages that doctors pushed into the socialists systems have caused by not knowing that kids with specific illnesses will have major reactions to otherwise _fairly safe_ vaccines People want to be outraged "how can this happen", but they don't care that the demographics of the US are being destroyed by a hot chinese war, pumping fentanyl into xanax patches and pushing them on college kids. People want to claim to care about these things - and AT THE VERY SAME TIME want to scream BLOODY MURDER if anyone suggests we stop the drugs and unvaccinated illegals from pouring across the border, destroying society by living in shadows. You cannot have 20 million people in a country that are willing to KILL CHILDREN while fleeing from police because they had a broken tail-light. You cannot have people that are being fed soda by a socialist IV, only to have the very same people doing that enact a law that puts a gun to your head and forces you to take care of them and their kids You cannot care about antibiotics and antifungal resistance until you care about people that are destroying the ability for this country to operate as a country that can enact change and TEST change. If you are running an experiment, would you allow people to destroy the controls, call them racist? That's what they're doing in Europe to Poland. Weird that. If you are running an experiment, would you allow it to be contaminated, allow different people to use different measurements, different conventions and different units to make measurements of different outcomes? that's what's happening to obfuscate the crime problems that are being caused by illegals. Why are you so pious and forthright about this when you don't give a shit about the decimation of the very foundation of the country.
Camillo 8y ago
Ok, let's say I decide to make this my cause. What can I do, concretely?
- acct1771 8y ago
  The answer is always, at minimum, inform someone else as to why it matters when the opportunity arises. Doing that without coming across a jerk, depending on the topic, can be tough.
- Nzen 8y ago
  We have representatives at the national and state/providential level. Write each of them letters about how they can represent you in this regard, maybe seasonally. As @acct1771 suggested, share this concern with others in your community. Encourage them to write a letter as well. I follow Hank Green's advice [0] about how to do so. Be specific, be respectful, demonstrate you checked hiso'er past, relevant votes. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp4h-3vQafk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp4h-3vQafk

by xoa 8y ago

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DONT_BE_A_MORON 8y ago

> It's worth trying to stamp down on it legally ASAP What's the point? People want to regulate agents that could accelerate the rise of resistance in the populations they target, people want to clutch their pearls and call out anivaxxers while ignoring billions of dollars in damages that doctors pushed into the socialists systems have caused by not knowing that kids with specific illnesses will have major reactions to otherwise _fairly safe_ vaccines People want to be outraged "how can this happen", but they don't care that the demographics of the US are being destroyed by a hot chinese war, pumping fentanyl into xanax patches and pushing them on college kids. People want to claim to care about these things - and AT THE VERY SAME TIME want to scream BLOODY MURDER if anyone suggests we stop the drugs and unvaccinated illegals from pouring across the border, destroying society by living in shadows. You cannot have 20 million people in a country that are willing to KILL CHILDREN while fleeing from police because they had a broken tail-light. You cannot have people that are being fed soda by a socialist IV, only to have the very same people doing that enact a law that puts a gun to your head and forces you to take care of them and their kids You cannot care about antibiotics and antifungal resistance until you care about people that are destroying the ability for this country to operate as a country that can enact change and TEST change. If you are running an experiment, would you allow people to destroy the controls, call them racist? That's what they're doing in Europe to Poland. Weird that. If you are running an experiment, would you allow it to be contaminated, allow different people to use different measurements, different conventions and different units to make measurements of different outcomes? that's what's happening to obfuscate the crime problems that are being caused by illegals. Why are you so pious and forthright about this when you don't give a shit about the decimation of the very foundation of the country.

Camillo 8y ago

Ok, let's say I decide to make this my cause. What can I do, concretely?

acct1771 8y ago
The answer is always, at minimum, inform someone else as to why it matters when the opportunity arises. Doing that without coming across a jerk, depending on the topic, can be tough.
Nzen 8y ago
We have representatives at the national and state/providential level. Write each of them letters about how they can represent you in this regard, maybe seasonally. As @acct1771 suggested, share this concern with others in your community. Encourage them to write a letter as well. I follow Hank Green's advice [0] about how to do so. Be specific, be respectful, demonstrate you checked hiso'er past, relevant votes. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp4h-3vQafk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp4h-3vQafk