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> How do they manage that when they have to pay for both hardware and software development, when all the others get the software for free? It's their ecosystem

> How do they manage that when they have to pay for both hardware and software development, when all the others get the software for free? It's their ecosystem, all their hardwares work very well between each other. You have Apple messenger on a macbook connecting to your iphone. For android you need to download pushbullet. I'm not in the ecosystem I prefer Android but I can see why people such as consumer would continue to buy Apple stuff. I'm not entirely sure about their laptops though... Also Apple make a lot of money from services such as itune and their app store. Itune made more than Spotify. It all works together with their close ecosystem. It's a real pain to move from apple to android because text messages goes straight to apple server. You need to sign off and jump a hoop to get text message back to android. Also getting mp3 off of itunes or getting bandcamp mp3s on to itune. It's like LA fitness, at least in 2010, where if you want to cancel your gym membership you need to download the pdf from their website and then mail it to the provided address and then they'll charge you anyway one extra month.

eridius 8y ago
You're saying Apple's making the money from the ecosystem, but that's not what the parent is asking. The parent is asking how Apple is making a money on each individual iPhone, which they absolutely are. Even if you never buy into the rest of the Apple ecosystem, merely purchasing an iPhone means Apple is making a profit from you.
joesb 8y ago
Lots and lots, I might even say majority, of people who bought iPhones don't have Mac or any other Apple device but iPhones. It's also only recently that the Apple ecosystem is relevant with Continuity stuffs. Before that, iPods, iPhones and iPads are all very isolated and don't require Apple ecosystem much.
Krasnol 8y ago
> For android you need to download pushbullet. TIL people are still sending SMS from their PC... I'd say most of us will either use the Signal client or web.whatsapp.com without bothering connecting the actual devices together.
cglace 8y ago
If you use google messages you can text through https://messages.android.com/ https://messages.android.com/ .

eridius 8y ago

You're saying Apple's making the money from the ecosystem, but that's not what the parent is asking. The parent is asking how Apple is making a money on each individual iPhone, which they absolutely are. Even if you never buy into the rest of the Apple ecosystem, merely purchasing an iPhone means Apple is making a profit from you.

joesb 8y ago

Lots and lots, I might even say majority, of people who bought iPhones don't have Mac or any other Apple device but iPhones. It's also only recently that the Apple ecosystem is relevant with Continuity stuffs. Before that, iPods, iPhones and iPads are all very isolated and don't require Apple ecosystem much.

Krasnol 8y ago

> For android you need to download pushbullet. TIL people are still sending SMS from their PC... I'd say most of us will either use the Signal client or web.whatsapp.com without bothering connecting the actual devices together.

cglace 8y ago

If you use google messages you can text through https://messages.android.com/ https://messages.android.com/ .