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Can you explain what you mean by this?

canYouExplain 7y ago
Can you explain what you're missing the point on, regarding the meaning?
cannonedhamster 7y ago
Seems to me the OP is claiming that people who attack white men are weak willed and only seek to subvert the strong willed white man. Not sure how else one would read that as only white men are strong willed and think like masters and everyone else is a weak willed slave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality
- coldtea 7y ago
  >people who attack white men are weak willed and only seek to subvert the strong willed white man Well, the "people who attack white men" are usually other white men and women. Minorities seldom play any role in this game, except as objects of pity and protection for the white people who promote guilt and signal their woke status. When minorities do play a role, they are more often than not, the unrepresentative privileged elites of those minorities (e.g. highly paid journalists, actors, and so on) and not the person on the street.
- ikeyany 7y ago
  That is not a rare opinion on HN.
- rdlecler1 7y ago
  What a fantastic misrepresentation of my comment and it shows very little understanding of Nietzche. Maybe try reading his work rather than relying on Wikipedia and throwing up a straw man argument. Ironically your response is exactly what Nietzche would have predicted.
narag 7y ago
I believe that I know what he means. Nietzsche compared the ethics of classical cultures (Greece, Rome) with Christianism that he called a slave morality, because in its first times it was adopted mostly by slaves. The former admired strength, bravery and power. The later, summarized in the Beatitudes, was a subversion of those values. Nietzsche believed that Christianism weakened Rome and more or less caused its downfall in favour of barbarian invaders that had a morality more similar to the people that built the empire. There are indeed many points in common with current situation. Despite their christian roots, current western nations, specially the USA, are based on capitalism, that values competition, strength, bravery, money, knowledge, power... much like classic Rome. Then there are a number of social movements that attack powerful elites subverting all those values. Do all these movements necessarily weaken western civilization? I don't think so, but I'd say he has a point.
- andreilys 7y ago
  The struggle between slave/master morality is an infinite game. Any single one in excess is hazardous to the health of a society. A world that is populated and led by the Last Man, who is tired of life, takes no risks, and seeks only comfort and security is not a world I want to live in.

Can you explain what you're missing the point on, regarding the meaning?

Seems to me the OP is claiming that people who attack white men are weak willed and only seek to subvert the strong willed white man. Not sure how else one would read that as only white men are strong willed and think like masters and everyone else is a weak willed slave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality

coldtea 7y ago
>people who attack white men are weak willed and only seek to subvert the strong willed white man Well, the "people who attack white men" are usually other white men and women. Minorities seldom play any role in this game, except as objects of pity and protection for the white people who promote guilt and signal their woke status. When minorities do play a role, they are more often than not, the unrepresentative privileged elites of those minorities (e.g. highly paid journalists, actors, and so on) and not the person on the street.
ikeyany 7y ago
That is not a rare opinion on HN.
rdlecler1 7y ago
What a fantastic misrepresentation of my comment and it shows very little understanding of Nietzche. Maybe try reading his work rather than relying on Wikipedia and throwing up a straw man argument. Ironically your response is exactly what Nietzche would have predicted.

narag 7y ago

I believe that I know what he means. Nietzsche compared the ethics of classical cultures (Greece, Rome) with Christianism that he called a slave morality, because in its first times it was adopted mostly by slaves. The former admired strength, bravery and power. The later, summarized in the Beatitudes, was a subversion of those values. Nietzsche believed that Christianism weakened Rome and more or less caused its downfall in favour of barbarian invaders that had a morality more similar to the people that built the empire. There are indeed many points in common with current situation. Despite their christian roots, current western nations, specially the USA, are based on capitalism, that values competition, strength, bravery, money, knowledge, power... much like classic Rome. Then there are a number of social movements that attack powerful elites subverting all those values. Do all these movements necessarily weaken western civilization? I don't think so, but I'd say he has a point.

andreilys 7y ago
The struggle between slave/master morality is an infinite game. Any single one in excess is hazardous to the health of a society. A world that is populated and led by the Last Man, who is tired of life, takes no risks, and seeks only comfort and security is not a world I want to live in.