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Greek dialectic, while cool and useful, is not the same thing as the scientific method. It was an essential ingredient to science, but not science itself. The

Greek dialectic, while cool and useful, is not the same thing as the scientific method. It was an essential ingredient to science, but not science itself. The Islamic world had access to the same (and perhaps even more) Greek heritage, but did not have "science". Regarding this so-called fact "that religion per se did nothing for science" here is at least a series of arguments for the case that the particularities of Christian theology (in contrast with other belief systems of the time and prior) made a fertile intellectual ground for science as a concept and practice to develop: https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2013/11/summa-origines-scientiarum-articulus-3.html https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2013/11/summa-origines-scientia...

heavenlyblue 8y ago
None of the points presented in that blog have been invented by Christians as most of the Christian philosphy was copied from Greek philosophy and then adapted to scriptures. And let’s be honest - a blog is not a source. Give me a book that is you have read and it gave you the historical knowledge about where Christian philosophical basis came from.
- lliamander 8y ago
  > None of the points presented in that blog have been invented by Christians as most of the Christian philosphy was copied from Greek philosophy and then adapted to scriptures. The point of the essay is explaining how those ideas were a result of specific Christian theological commitments in contrast to pre-Christian pagan notions: things like linear time, non-animism, the rational mind coming from the Imago Dei, belief that the world is not an illusion, etc. The article cites Alfred North Whitehead, who said: "I do not think that I have even yet brought out the greatest contribution of medievalism to the formation of the scientific movement. I mean the inexpungable belief that every detailed occurrence can be correlated with its antecedents in a perfectly definite manner, exemplifying general principles. Without this belief the incredible labours of scientists would be without hope. It is this instinctive conviction, vividly poised before the imagination, which is the motive power of research: -- that there is a secret, a secret which can be unveiled." > And let’s be honest - a blog is not a source. Give me a book that is you have read and it gave you the historical knowledge about where Christian philosophical basis came from. That's some rather bizarre special pleading. The post is well-argued and well-sourced. There's nothing inherently more authoritative about printing something in a book, and here I can actually provide you with my source, for free, over the internet.

heavenlyblue 8y ago

None of the points presented in that blog have been invented by Christians as most of the Christian philosphy was copied from Greek philosophy and then adapted to scriptures. And let’s be honest - a blog is not a source. Give me a book that is you have read and it gave you the historical knowledge about where Christian philosophical basis came from.

lliamander 8y ago
> None of the points presented in that blog have been invented by Christians as most of the Christian philosphy was copied from Greek philosophy and then adapted to scriptures. The point of the essay is explaining how those ideas were a result of specific Christian theological commitments in contrast to pre-Christian pagan notions: things like linear time, non-animism, the rational mind coming from the Imago Dei, belief that the world is not an illusion, etc. The article cites Alfred North Whitehead, who said: "I do not think that I have even yet brought out the greatest contribution of medievalism to the formation of the scientific movement. I mean the inexpungable belief that every detailed occurrence can be correlated with its antecedents in a perfectly definite manner, exemplifying general principles. Without this belief the incredible labours of scientists would be without hope. It is this instinctive conviction, vividly poised before the imagination, which is the motive power of research: -- that there is a secret, a secret which can be unveiled." > And let’s be honest - a blog is not a source. Give me a book that is you have read and it gave you the historical knowledge about where Christian philosophical basis came from. That's some rather bizarre special pleading. The post is well-argued and well-sourced. There's nothing inherently more authoritative about printing something in a book, and here I can actually provide you with my source, for free, over the internet.