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Wow, I am very disappointed by many of the comments in this thread. I would have thought that my fellow tech workers would be more rational and less bigoted tha

Wow, I am very disappointed by many of the comments in this thread. I would have thought that my fellow tech workers would be more rational and less bigoted than this. I am also frankly amazed that HN allows these viewpoints be spread. As a gay man, this makes this forum considerably less welcoming. Consider if instead of anti-LGBT bias, it were racism instead. HN has a very strict commenting policy, with arguments needing to be substantiated, etc. Especially in light of that, the tolerance of posts that are not only unsubstantiated and unscientific, but also discriminatory, is bizarre.

krapp 8y ago
>Consider if instead of anti-LGBT bias, it were racism instead. Yeah, umm... plenty of "racial realists" and ethno-nationalists here too, and incels, and anti-semites. Unfortunately, alt-right, anti-progressive and and neoreactionary politics seem to have taken root in the tech community, and that's becoming as much a part of tech culture as anarchism was for a previous generation of hackers. That said, I think this was actually one of the better threads HN has had on this subject in a while. >HN has a very strict commenting policy, with arguments needing to be substantiated, etc. It doesn't. All HN requires is that comments be civil, and not assume bad faith. It's up to the community to call people out on their BS, but it's not policy.
- lenticular 8y ago
  >Yeah, umm... plenty of "racial realists" and ethno-nationalists here too, and incels, and anti-semites. I'm sure you're right, but I haven't read. Generally, bigots go for the whole meal deal. Still, I notice that blatantly transphobia is tolerated to a far greater degree than racism or homophobia. One at least has to put a bit of effort into dog-whistling in those cases. >It doesn't. All HN requires is that comments be civil, and not assume bad faith. It's up to the community to call people out on their BS, but it's not policy. The "not assuming bad faith" thing, which applies broadly in our society, is what allows this kind of barely-concealed dog-whistling to go on. Assuming good faith is the proper default, but common sense should be applied.

krapp 8y ago

>Consider if instead of anti-LGBT bias, it were racism instead. Yeah, umm... plenty of "racial realists" and ethno-nationalists here too, and incels, and anti-semites. Unfortunately, alt-right, anti-progressive and and neoreactionary politics seem to have taken root in the tech community, and that's becoming as much a part of tech culture as anarchism was for a previous generation of hackers. That said, I think this was actually one of the better threads HN has had on this subject in a while. >HN has a very strict commenting policy, with arguments needing to be substantiated, etc. It doesn't. All HN requires is that comments be civil, and not assume bad faith. It's up to the community to call people out on their BS, but it's not policy.

lenticular 8y ago
>Yeah, umm... plenty of "racial realists" and ethno-nationalists here too, and incels, and anti-semites. I'm sure you're right, but I haven't read. Generally, bigots go for the whole meal deal. Still, I notice that blatantly transphobia is tolerated to a far greater degree than racism or homophobia. One at least has to put a bit of effort into dog-whistling in those cases. >It doesn't. All HN requires is that comments be civil, and not assume bad faith. It's up to the community to call people out on their BS, but it's not policy. The "not assuming bad faith" thing, which applies broadly in our society, is what allows this kind of barely-concealed dog-whistling to go on. Assuming good faith is the proper default, but common sense should be applied.