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spotify is charged 30%. https://timetoplayfair.com/facts/ https://timetoplayfair.com/facts/

dvtrn 8y ago
I find this to be pretty elucidating on the situation of Apple/Spotify. I'll admit Warren's suggestion had me raising a bit of an eyebrow but taking the time to understand Spotify's position a bit definitely gave me some clarity and I'm certainly less incredulous than I was before. Given the debate at hand, this link is definitely worth a read.
jpincheira 8y ago
This somehow will have to change. The top grossing iOS app (Tinder.app) somehow is not really complaining about this though, but that's because most their revenue comes from the iOS in app purchases.
- nikofeyn 8y ago
  apple doesn’t have a competing tinder app. apple forced the 30% upon spotify, causing a price increase for spotify, but then apple released apple music at spotify’s old price, undercutting them.
  - votepaunchy 8y ago
    Again, subscriptions are 15% after the first year. Spotify is acting quite disingenuously in their claim.
    - nikofeyn 8y ago
      that isn't entirely clear to me. https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/21/17764424/netflix-feature-bypass-apples-app-store-fees https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/21/17764424/netflix-feature-... this article implies that no, it is indeed 30% for any new user, at least for netflix, but then that matches up with what spotify claims. spotify also claims that apple changes what policy applies to each company. it does mention the second year reduction, but that seems to be for other apps? i think it's at least clear that apple makes it a little unclear what they exactly do. i have heard from more than one app developer (from big companies) complain about apple's arbitrary app store processes.
  - Svoka 8y ago
    Apple has premium only streaming service. No surprise it's better than freemium Spotify. Reportedly from what I googled Spotify has about third of active users paying any subscription fee, while it's 100% for Apple.
AimForTheBushes 8y ago
Which decreases to 15% after the first year.
scarface74 8y ago
Spotify hasn’t allowed in app purchases of subscriptions for years.
Svoka 8y ago
I love how they're comparing Spotify's 10$ vs Apple Music 10$ subscription. Completely forgetting that Apple Music is premium only service, while Spotify' minority of paying customers carry majority of freeloaders. Very "fair" comparison. (I know that Spotify have ads, but ad revenue is significantly less than 10$/m)

I find this to be pretty elucidating on the situation of Apple/Spotify. I'll admit Warren's suggestion had me raising a bit of an eyebrow but taking the time to understand Spotify's position a bit definitely gave me some clarity and I'm certainly less incredulous than I was before. Given the debate at hand, this link is definitely worth a read.

jpincheira 8y ago

This somehow will have to change. The top grossing iOS app (Tinder.app) somehow is not really complaining about this though, but that's because most their revenue comes from the iOS in app purchases.

nikofeyn 8y ago
apple doesn’t have a competing tinder app. apple forced the 30% upon spotify, causing a price increase for spotify, but then apple released apple music at spotify’s old price, undercutting them.
- votepaunchy 8y ago
  Again, subscriptions are 15% after the first year. Spotify is acting quite disingenuously in their claim.
  - nikofeyn 8y ago
    that isn't entirely clear to me. https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/21/17764424/netflix-feature-bypass-apples-app-store-fees https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/21/17764424/netflix-feature-... this article implies that no, it is indeed 30% for any new user, at least for netflix, but then that matches up with what spotify claims. spotify also claims that apple changes what policy applies to each company. it does mention the second year reduction, but that seems to be for other apps? i think it's at least clear that apple makes it a little unclear what they exactly do. i have heard from more than one app developer (from big companies) complain about apple's arbitrary app store processes.
- Svoka 8y ago
  Apple has premium only streaming service. No surprise it's better than freemium Spotify. Reportedly from what I googled Spotify has about third of active users paying any subscription fee, while it's 100% for Apple.

AimForTheBushes 8y ago

Which decreases to 15% after the first year.

scarface74 8y ago

Spotify hasn’t allowed in app purchases of subscriptions for years.

Svoka 8y ago

I love how they're comparing Spotify's 10$ vs Apple Music 10$ subscription. Completely forgetting that Apple Music is premium only service, while Spotify' minority of paying customers carry majority of freeloaders. Very "fair" comparison. (I know that Spotify have ads, but ad revenue is significantly less than 10$/m)