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As a counterpoint, I lament the loss of high-density interfaces and applications with a lot of configuration options. I see the modern web moving more and more

As a counterpoint, I lament the loss of high-density interfaces and applications with a lot of configuration options. I see the modern web moving more and more towards the lowest common denominator. I appreciate your perspective because I had previously not viewed it from an accessibility standpoint, but as application developers creating things that can be used with as little thought as possible, to the dismay of people like me. I think there's an opportunity to create tools and UI that can adapt for power users as well as people who need accessibility. Stripping everything out and placing large text on a plain white page and calling it accessibility seems like laziness. Or perhaps that unrelenting drive towards simplification for the sake of saving time/money. Anything that needs more support, more developer time, etc. is seen as a bad thing and avoided. Just some thoughts.

NeedMoreTea 8y ago
High density, and configuration choices are not clutter. Their loss is a cargo cult fashion as much as bell bottom jeans or flat monochrome UI. :p I'm about the same age as Charlie. I need reading glasses and have wrist issues thanks to decades of constant typing. As I can feel some of the deterioration now I notice when I'm fighting it. I'm amazed so little accessibility has been achieved. Clutter is the irrelevance, the ads, the options they want you to click rather than the one you're looking for. The random mess that achieves nothing beneficial -- for me. Obsessions with flat monochrome UI (Hello Win 10) that no theme or setting can remove are clutter - informational clutter that ensures the usual channels are overloaded or missing. Clutter might not even be the one room, one app or one site, but become so when there's the whole house to consider, or the dozens of apps or sites the modern world expects you to use. I don't mind spending 10 or 20 minutes finding an option or setting, or buying a book, ONCE. I do mind when it's become so cluttered that every interaction with everyone takes 10, 20, 30 minutes from me -- for the benefit of some random company I have no choice about using anyway. Every current Amazon purchase takes far too long, as does phone co, electric co, bank, government or council. When every company and department over 3 people has the same useless, hateful queuing system and consigns serviec and continuity to the bin. "Your call is important to us". Bullshit, if it were you'd still have the local number answered after 3 rings. Tech is to serve them, the corporation, not us. Everyone's life has filled with clutter to give free time, and data, to serve the master^Wcorporate overlord. I got into tech because I could make things better, quicker, easier, more fun. It's none of those things any more mostly deliberately choosing the opposite. Laziness of UI is profitable -- that's the only care in this second gilded age. This is heading to rant. I'll stop now. :)
dredmorbius 8y ago
The tyranny of the minumum viable user: https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/69wk8y/the_tyranny_of_the_minimum_viable_user/ https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/69wk8y/the_tyr...

NeedMoreTea 8y ago

High density, and configuration choices are not clutter. Their loss is a cargo cult fashion as much as bell bottom jeans or flat monochrome UI. :p I'm about the same age as Charlie. I need reading glasses and have wrist issues thanks to decades of constant typing. As I can feel some of the deterioration now I notice when I'm fighting it. I'm amazed so little accessibility has been achieved. Clutter is the irrelevance, the ads, the options they want you to click rather than the one you're looking for. The random mess that achieves nothing beneficial -- for me. Obsessions with flat monochrome UI (Hello Win 10) that no theme or setting can remove are clutter - informational clutter that ensures the usual channels are overloaded or missing. Clutter might not even be the one room, one app or one site, but become so when there's the whole house to consider, or the dozens of apps or sites the modern world expects you to use. I don't mind spending 10 or 20 minutes finding an option or setting, or buying a book, ONCE. I do mind when it's become so cluttered that every interaction with everyone takes 10, 20, 30 minutes from me -- for the benefit of some random company I have no choice about using anyway. Every current Amazon purchase takes far too long, as does phone co, electric co, bank, government or council. When every company and department over 3 people has the same useless, hateful queuing system and consigns serviec and continuity to the bin. "Your call is important to us". Bullshit, if it were you'd still have the local number answered after 3 rings. Tech is to serve them, the corporation, not us. Everyone's life has filled with clutter to give free time, and data, to serve the master^Wcorporate overlord. I got into tech because I could make things better, quicker, easier, more fun. It's none of those things any more mostly deliberately choosing the opposite. Laziness of UI is profitable -- that's the only care in this second gilded age. This is heading to rant. I'll stop now. :)

dredmorbius 8y ago

The tyranny of the minumum viable user: https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/69wk8y/the_tyranny_of_the_minimum_viable_user/ https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/69wk8y/the_tyr...