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100% I often wonder if the trans-rights movement is stuck in this kind of rhetorical cul-de-sac because the gay rights movement leaned so hard on "born this wa
by weeksie 8y ago
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I often wonder if the trans-rights movement is stuck in this kind of rhetorical cul-de-sac because the gay rights movement leaned so hard on "born this way" to make its case. That made sense because it moved the discussion away from sexual morality toward fairness. No doubt necessary to win the concessions and public opinion change of the 00s-10s.
In reality it shouldn't matter how innate sexual preference or gender identity are. People should be free to identify and fuck as they please. Unfortunately some on the ultra-woke side of the trans rights movement have continued to paint themselves into the corner of "born this way" but then have to backfill their biological epistemology to fit their rhetoric.
- kzrdude 8y agoI haven't personally heard a trans story that conflicts with "born this way", to understand what I mean you'd use the perspective that it refers to both the body and the mind that inhabits it.
- weeksie 8y agoIf gender is innate, and not a social construct, then what does that say about gender roles and what are the implications for modern feminism? If gender is a purely social construct, gender identity is a lifestyle choice. Both formulations are wrong, but people tend to go all in arguing one or the other. The problem is now we have the same crew that was 100% social construct arguing for 100% biological determinism and the inconsistency of worldview makes them sound ridiculous.