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The concept that the government is a bully makes me laugh (and also sad). What a warped worldview.

isoskeles 8y ago
It could be an apple vendor who lowers their price, same difference here. The label doesn't matter. But here in the US, they definitely act like a bully eager to punish people for earning money because half the country views wealth as a sin. They do it to the extent of coming up with absurd new tax schemes. > Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, announced on Tuesday that he is working on a mark-to-market system that would tax unrealized capital gains on assets owned by “millionaires and billionaires.”
- moorhosj 8y ago
  ==half the country views wealth as a sin.== But I thought they were all atheists, which is it? ==absurd new tax schemes.== As opposed to the old scheme of cutting taxes for the richest among us and telling the rest it will trickle down to them? How many times of that not working before we are allowed to try something new?
  - isoskeles 8y ago
    > But I thought they were all atheists, which is it? Don't be ridiculous, you understand what I wrote. > trickle down etc They still pay more than you or I, by rate and nominally, unless most of their income is in long-term capital gains. And this isn't what people target when they talk about a "90%" (or whatever number) income tax rate on the wealthiest. I would prefer we dismantle our massive war-spending problem before we even start touching taxes. It's such a stupid debate, and I refuse to engage in it beyond that point.
    - moorhosj 8y ago
      ==Don't be ridiculous, you understand what I wrote.== What you wrote was hyperbole based completely on political bias. I responded in-kind. ==And this isn't what people target when they talk about a "90%" (or whatever number) income tax rate on the wealthiest.== Yet, the one example you provided (Sen. Wyden) does exactly this.
petermcneeley 8y ago
Chomsky's comments on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUJGwZcVVU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUJGwZcVVU

It could be an apple vendor who lowers their price, same difference here. The label doesn't matter. But here in the US, they definitely act like a bully eager to punish people for earning money because half the country views wealth as a sin. They do it to the extent of coming up with absurd new tax schemes. > Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, announced on Tuesday that he is working on a mark-to-market system that would tax unrealized capital gains on assets owned by “millionaires and billionaires.”

moorhosj 8y ago
==half the country views wealth as a sin.== But I thought they were all atheists, which is it? ==absurd new tax schemes.== As opposed to the old scheme of cutting taxes for the richest among us and telling the rest it will trickle down to them? How many times of that not working before we are allowed to try something new?
- isoskeles 8y ago
  > But I thought they were all atheists, which is it? Don't be ridiculous, you understand what I wrote. > trickle down etc They still pay more than you or I, by rate and nominally, unless most of their income is in long-term capital gains. And this isn't what people target when they talk about a "90%" (or whatever number) income tax rate on the wealthiest. I would prefer we dismantle our massive war-spending problem before we even start touching taxes. It's such a stupid debate, and I refuse to engage in it beyond that point.
  - moorhosj 8y ago
    ==Don't be ridiculous, you understand what I wrote.== What you wrote was hyperbole based completely on political bias. I responded in-kind. ==And this isn't what people target when they talk about a "90%" (or whatever number) income tax rate on the wealthiest.== Yet, the one example you provided (Sen. Wyden) does exactly this.

petermcneeley 8y ago

Chomsky's comments on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUJGwZcVVU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUJGwZcVVU