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> Why are we normalizing this? Normalizing what? There are doctors involved. What do you think the recommended course of action is for someone with gender dysp

> Why are we normalizing this? Normalizing what? There are doctors involved. What do you think the recommended course of action is for someone with gender dysphoria or someone born intersex?

stcredzero 8y ago
What do you think the recommended course of action is for someone with gender dysphoria or someone born intersex? For people who get intervention, the rates of depression and suicide remain alarmingly high. For children and adolescents who are told to wait until they are adults before receiving physical intervention, what are the rates of depression and suicide? I have read and heard that many such people become well adjusted as adults. For those that don't become well adjusted, there's still the option of physical intervention.
- lenticular 8y ago
  What you have heard and read is wrong. No, people forced to live as a gender contrary to their own do not grow up to be well adjusted adults. Gender dysphoria is a real disorder as any perusal of legitimate medical research will tell you. The sources I imagine you reach for are non-scientific and not appropriate for HN.
  - stcredzero 8y ago
    Gender dysphoria is a real disorder No one here is questioning that. The sources I imagine you reach for are non-scientific and not appropriate for HN. That's quite an Authoritarian stance. How about a mainstream liberal paper and a mainstream conservative one? https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/sunday-dialogue-our-notions-of-gender.html https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/sunday-dia... https://nationalpost.com/news/cbc-orders-last-minute-cancellation-of-bbc-documentary-that-activists-say-is-transphobic https://nationalpost.com/news/cbc-orders-last-minute-cancell... Reading the reactions around the articles and media referenced in them just strike me as a combination of science and medicine along with ideological activism. My experience is that so long as people are in a community which accepts them, the vast majority of people will figure things out without the need for surgery and hormone injections.

> Why are we normalizing this? Normalizing what? There are doctors involved. What do you think the recommended course of action is for someone with gender dysphoria or someone born intersex?

stcredzero 8y ago

What do you think the recommended course of action is for someone with gender dysphoria or someone born intersex? For people who get intervention, the rates of depression and suicide remain alarmingly high. For children and adolescents who are told to wait until they are adults before receiving physical intervention, what are the rates of depression and suicide? I have read and heard that many such people become well adjusted as adults. For those that don't become well adjusted, there's still the option of physical intervention.

lenticular 8y ago
What you have heard and read is wrong. No, people forced to live as a gender contrary to their own do not grow up to be well adjusted adults. Gender dysphoria is a real disorder as any perusal of legitimate medical research will tell you. The sources I imagine you reach for are non-scientific and not appropriate for HN.
- stcredzero 8y ago
  Gender dysphoria is a real disorder No one here is questioning that. The sources I imagine you reach for are non-scientific and not appropriate for HN. That's quite an Authoritarian stance. How about a mainstream liberal paper and a mainstream conservative one? https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/sunday-dialogue-our-notions-of-gender.html https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/sunday-dia... https://nationalpost.com/news/cbc-orders-last-minute-cancellation-of-bbc-documentary-that-activists-say-is-transphobic https://nationalpost.com/news/cbc-orders-last-minute-cancell... Reading the reactions around the articles and media referenced in them just strike me as a combination of science and medicine along with ideological activism. My experience is that so long as people are in a community which accepts them, the vast majority of people will figure things out without the need for surgery and hormone injections.