We did an entire show on this with Ozan Onay back in 2017 ~> https://changelog.com/podcast/260 https://changelog.com/podcast/260 You can read through the trans

We did an entire show on this with Ozan Onay back in 2017 ~> https://changelog.com/podcast/260 https://changelog.com/podcast/260 You can read through the transcript too ~> https://changelog.com/podcast/260#transcript https://changelog.com/podcast/260#transcript