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It's also inaccessible to non-English speakers. A11Y is not the bottom line to judge everything by. That dilutes it's importance as a niche. Judging by a11y is
by dosy 8y ago
It's also inaccessible to non-English speakers.
A11Y is not the bottom line to judge everything by. That dilutes it's importance as a niche. Judging by a11y is a power that should be used responsibly, not as a last resort to just find something critical to say.
It's inaccessible to non English speakers and that's not a problem because it just doesn't matter enough. Same thing with disability. There's just not enough disabled people to justify critiquing everything that's not usable with screen readers.
The world is not accessible to every group within it, and that's okay, that doesn't mean everything that isn't able to be used by some group is somehow bad or deficient. To discriminate against apps that don't have certain abilities is just the same bias as discriminating against people with different abilities. Be more tolerant of apps that are serving their special niches and nothing more.
- mwcampbell 8y agoI'm not calling this out just to be critical. I call this out because I don't want people to be blocked from doing their jobs productively, or at all, due to an accessibility problem that could have been prevented.
- giornogiovanna 8y agoStill, by your logic, every app must be translated into every language. It's okay to exclude people, especially when you're small and don't have the resources to cater for the needs of every single person.
- anoncake 8y agoPeople can learn foreign languages. Disabled people cant stop being disabled.
- HeWhoLurksLate 8y agoThe impossible just takes longer. And money. https://www.mayo.edu/research/departments-divisions/department-neurology/programs/neuro-regeneration-spinal-cord-injury https://www.mayo.edu/research/departments-divisions/departme...
- Piskvorrr 8y agoNope. The point is "the underlying toolkit should enable this." I18n and l10n are somewhat better supported in this regard than a11y.
- geofft 8y agoApps should be translatable, even if they're not translated. If you're small, you're not obligated to translate an app to every possible language, but it is bad engineering to make your UI dependent on your primary language in a way which would make it hard to ever add support for a new one.
- austincheney 8y agoTranslatable not translated. Failing to see the difference is likely an accessibility violation.
- dosy 8y agoThis is not a software problem. Software doesn't need to absorb every requirement. You can prevent this problem in ways that don't involve pretending that somehow it's the responsibility of every software developer to use a11y in every product. So judging as if that's in scope is incorrect, is a wasteful use of judgement and, if people are convinced, a wasteful use of software resources. Doing that is just harming a11y efforts, by insisting software must be the fix, when there are plenty of other solutions that don't involve rewriting / redesigning a piece of software, likely to deliver solutions faster or better than changes to software. At this point, I really don't know why you keep advocating this path as your goal can be achieved through other means. Get off the idea that a11y critiques are the ultimate trump card. They are not.
- kalleboo 8y agoYou can't even type in Japanese. Typical cross-platform "well we got it to run everywhere!" solution. So now we have a framework running on a VM running on a VM running inside a sandbox running in microcode (did I miss a level?). Can't wait for the next abstraction!
- HeWhoLurksLate 8y agoCPU architecture?