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These lists get far more Github stars than actual software...same problem here.

Asooka 8y ago
Well, the list of tools is at least as useful as the most useful tool on the list, and probably reflects the overall usefulness of its category. Which means that if we go enough levels farther, the master list of lists [of lists...] would reflect the overall usefulness of all software on GitHub. Also maybe GitHub needs a "list of stuff" category, so these lists of things don't muddle search results and conversely can be searched for easily. Curated lists of links are generally quite useful and putting it all in a public vcs with a pull request infrastructure makes it easy to contribute.
- mihaifm 8y ago
  I definitely see a usefullness in these lists, I just feel sad that they get a lot more attention than actual code repositiories. Indeed, Github should find a solution for this. I didn't care much about Github stars but recently I noticed they're being required in various scenarios, for example some CDN require a certain number of Github stars to include a library [1] [1] https://github.com/cdnjs/cdnjs/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#b-request-a-new-library https://github.com/cdnjs/cdnjs/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#b...
  - TeMPOraL 8y ago
    I don't think Github stars should be considered as anything more than built-in bookmarking. Personally, I only use them that way. With this view, it's obvious why lists get more stars than the projects listed.
- hopler 8y ago
  > the list of tools is at least as useful as the most useful tool on the list. Simple disproof: a list of everything is not more useful than the most useful thing, because navigating the list has a cost. Also, an analogy: would you eat a bowl of candy that had the best piece of candy in the world and also the most poisonous substance (malware)?
coldtea 8y ago
You keep the curators to 5-6 experts in each field, with a reputation for being straight. If they do any tempering, expel them. This requires a rich person to pay them, or a community to motivate them, which gives the super-power to an agreeable, but fair BDFL.
- hopler 8y ago
  This already exists. The problem is how to find it, since on the surface it looks the same as all the junk lists
  - coldtea 8y ago
    Well, people trying it, getting good results, and thus creating word of mouth for it, should be enough.

Well, the list of tools is at least as useful as the most useful tool on the list, and probably reflects the overall usefulness of its category. Which means that if we go enough levels farther, the master list of lists [of lists...] would reflect the overall usefulness of all software on GitHub. Also maybe GitHub needs a "list of stuff" category, so these lists of things don't muddle search results and conversely can be searched for easily. Curated lists of links are generally quite useful and putting it all in a public vcs with a pull request infrastructure makes it easy to contribute.

mihaifm 8y ago
I definitely see a usefullness in these lists, I just feel sad that they get a lot more attention than actual code repositiories. Indeed, Github should find a solution for this. I didn't care much about Github stars but recently I noticed they're being required in various scenarios, for example some CDN require a certain number of Github stars to include a library [1] [1] https://github.com/cdnjs/cdnjs/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#b-request-a-new-library https://github.com/cdnjs/cdnjs/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#b...
- TeMPOraL 8y ago
  I don't think Github stars should be considered as anything more than built-in bookmarking. Personally, I only use them that way. With this view, it's obvious why lists get more stars than the projects listed.
hopler 8y ago
> the list of tools is at least as useful as the most useful tool on the list. Simple disproof: a list of everything is not more useful than the most useful thing, because navigating the list has a cost. Also, an analogy: would you eat a bowl of candy that had the best piece of candy in the world and also the most poisonous substance (malware)?

coldtea 8y ago

You keep the curators to 5-6 experts in each field, with a reputation for being straight. If they do any tempering, expel them. This requires a rich person to pay them, or a community to motivate them, which gives the super-power to an agreeable, but fair BDFL.

hopler 8y ago
This already exists. The problem is how to find it, since on the surface it looks the same as all the junk lists
- coldtea 8y ago
  Well, people trying it, getting good results, and thus creating word of mouth for it, should be enough.