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Clearly propaganda, and there was only the single source that as we can clearly see now was adversarial.

idlewords 8y ago
Consistent with many descriptions of what it was like to have Assange on one's sofa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le3jrp6LzjI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le3jrp6LzjI
- whamlastxmas 8y ago
  Someone let him sleep on their couch and then was upset he didn't move over when they passively used body language to suggest they wanted to sit there. The very concept that this is notable at all amongst the severity of everything else around this situation makes it pretty obvious to me it's just a smear. The dude is a slob so fuck em, let him rot in solitary for 30 years
  - leftyted 8y ago
    No one in this thread has said anything remotely like "The dude is a slob so fuck em, let him rot in solitary for 30 years". He can be a bad house guest and not deserve to rot in prison, right? I think it's pretty clear to anyone even attempting to be objective that Assange has a "difficult personality". Even if you broadly approve of him, he's burned a lot of bridges and appears to have quite an ego.
    - ben_w 8y ago
      I think a difficult personality is a necessity for the role he is performing. While a difficult personality absolutely is not and must not be a reason to condemn someone, the good such people perform doesn’t mean anyone should have to put up with their antisocial behaviour, nor that he in particular gets a free pass from the court processes which caused him to end up in the embassy in the first place. Same rules for everyone. None of us are pure saints, and even those of us who are pure evil [1] should only be prosecuted for acts which one can reasonably believe them to be guilty of before a trial actually demonstrates the quality of the evidence. [1] by which I mean dark triad personalities, not religious/utilitarian/etc. ethics.
  - jacobolus 8y ago
    If you’re going to live permanently as an un-paying guest in someone else’s building (in this case, the Ecuadorian embassy in London), it’s not a smart idea to be such “a slob” that your hosts are just waiting for an excuse to get rid of you and stop dealing with your bullshit. Similarly, if you are a miserable guest when staying temporarily at a string of friends’ houses, you won’t keep having friends for very long.
    - A2017U1 8y ago
      You say guest as though he can just walk out the door anytime in the last 7 years. Will his real hosts let him catch a plane to Ecuador? Terrible analogy.
      - matt4077 8y ago
        Well, maybe he should not have also offended (in the law and the colloquial sense) his „real“ hosts. It’s almost as if no man is an island, and also Karma.
        SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
        Or raped someone, for that matter.
        cotelletta 8y ago
        *had consensual sex without a condom with, whose partner wanted to compel him to get an STD test, when a prosecutor with a chip on her shoulder and possibly a dollar bribe in her pocket turned it into what you now think it is. Or at least want us to believe.
        matt4077 8y ago
        I see no material difference in your description and the term rape. An agreement to have sex with a condom only is certainly not valid for condom-less sex. And your spurious accusation of bribery is just baffling.
- ohhNoes 8y ago
  Those people are so smarmy and pathetic that it's pretty laughable to hear them whine. Which, I guess, is the intended effect of the video. The complaints are so underwhelming that you wonder if these people have ever been on a camping trip, or, dare I say, drank an entire beer in one evening. It's like, you really have to wonder, what if he were so bold as to place a plastic yogurt cup in the recycle bin without rinsing it out first? Is he capable of such things? After watching that video, I just don't know anymore...
- kids_ith 8y ago
  Ha ha ha! It's like an episode of Kids in The Hall! I half expect Scott Thompson to chime in on the phone call and complain about Assange taking off his socks and just leaving them in the living room. The nerve!
- wazoox 8y ago
  The fact that he is an asshole is clearly unimportant compared to what he achieved as a whistleblower. Clearly, I don't give a damn and nobody should.
- plankers 8y ago
  What a dominant way to handle that situation. Especially the rotted fruit.

Consistent with many descriptions of what it was like to have Assange on one's sofa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le3jrp6LzjI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le3jrp6LzjI

whamlastxmas 8y ago
Someone let him sleep on their couch and then was upset he didn't move over when they passively used body language to suggest they wanted to sit there. The very concept that this is notable at all amongst the severity of everything else around this situation makes it pretty obvious to me it's just a smear. The dude is a slob so fuck em, let him rot in solitary for 30 years
- leftyted 8y ago
  No one in this thread has said anything remotely like "The dude is a slob so fuck em, let him rot in solitary for 30 years". He can be a bad house guest and not deserve to rot in prison, right? I think it's pretty clear to anyone even attempting to be objective that Assange has a "difficult personality". Even if you broadly approve of him, he's burned a lot of bridges and appears to have quite an ego.
  - ben_w 8y ago
    I think a difficult personality is a necessity for the role he is performing. While a difficult personality absolutely is not and must not be a reason to condemn someone, the good such people perform doesn’t mean anyone should have to put up with their antisocial behaviour, nor that he in particular gets a free pass from the court processes which caused him to end up in the embassy in the first place. Same rules for everyone. None of us are pure saints, and even those of us who are pure evil [1] should only be prosecuted for acts which one can reasonably believe them to be guilty of before a trial actually demonstrates the quality of the evidence. [1] by which I mean dark triad personalities, not religious/utilitarian/etc. ethics.
- jacobolus 8y ago
  If you’re going to live permanently as an un-paying guest in someone else’s building (in this case, the Ecuadorian embassy in London), it’s not a smart idea to be such “a slob” that your hosts are just waiting for an excuse to get rid of you and stop dealing with your bullshit. Similarly, if you are a miserable guest when staying temporarily at a string of friends’ houses, you won’t keep having friends for very long.
  - A2017U1 8y ago
    You say guest as though he can just walk out the door anytime in the last 7 years. Will his real hosts let him catch a plane to Ecuador? Terrible analogy.
    - matt4077 8y ago
      Well, maybe he should not have also offended (in the law and the colloquial sense) his „real“ hosts. It’s almost as if no man is an island, and also Karma.
      - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
        Or raped someone, for that matter.
        cotelletta 8y ago
        *had consensual sex without a condom with, whose partner wanted to compel him to get an STD test, when a prosecutor with a chip on her shoulder and possibly a dollar bribe in her pocket turned it into what you now think it is. Or at least want us to believe.
        matt4077 8y ago
        I see no material difference in your description and the term rape. An agreement to have sex with a condom only is certainly not valid for condom-less sex. And your spurious accusation of bribery is just baffling.
ohhNoes 8y ago
Those people are so smarmy and pathetic that it's pretty laughable to hear them whine. Which, I guess, is the intended effect of the video. The complaints are so underwhelming that you wonder if these people have ever been on a camping trip, or, dare I say, drank an entire beer in one evening. It's like, you really have to wonder, what if he were so bold as to place a plastic yogurt cup in the recycle bin without rinsing it out first? Is he capable of such things? After watching that video, I just don't know anymore...
kids_ith 8y ago
Ha ha ha! It's like an episode of Kids in The Hall! I half expect Scott Thompson to chime in on the phone call and complain about Assange taking off his socks and just leaving them in the living room. The nerve!
wazoox 8y ago
The fact that he is an asshole is clearly unimportant compared to what he achieved as a whistleblower. Clearly, I don't give a damn and nobody should.
plankers 8y ago
What a dominant way to handle that situation. Especially the rotted fruit.